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Zampina Jun 24 @ 12:08am
What happened to mankind?
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As title says, anyone knows what happened to mankind in this game? How they got extinguished?
From what i have understood (from when you decrypt horus chip), Horus wiped himself to prevent the extinction of humanity, right?
Soo, what happened to them- to us?
Anyone knows?

:D
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xlynx Jun 24 @ 2:57am 
did you look up "humans" in the kiosk while using the monocle?
Mark Yohalem Jun 24 @ 7:57am 
There's also the spin-off / sequel "Fallen" -- which isn't a game, but does shed some light on the question:
http://primordiagame.com/fallen_complete.pdf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vmtgUgifGQ
Zampina Jun 25 @ 12:23pm 
Thanks for the answers guys. I tried to look at humans, but it said most of the information were deleted.
Then i found that i was missing a question to metromind right there, in the end: What happened tho humans.. And then she spoke to me. B'sodding metromaind.
Btw great game and great story :) ill watch fallen, Thanks again :D
Mark Yohalem Jun 25 @ 8:35pm 
Thanks! (You can also read Fallen -- the two versions are slightly different, with the written version being a bit more structurally complicated.)
xlynx Jun 25 @ 10:48pm 
Originally posted by Zampina:
I tried to look at humans, but it said most of the information were deleted.

Oh, maybe I was thinking of "war". There's a full list of keywords in the Guides section here.
/vg/ Dr. House Jul 2 @ 5:08am 
Im also wandering about humanity fate in Primordia. Why such big systems as Metromind doesn't have anything like Asimov's three laws? I think its natural to include some basic security measures into such big AI's, like "Don't kill humans" directive. How subway controlling system get a hold of poisonous gas supplies?
Dont mean to be picky, I really like the game.

Also, game imposes that humanty (at least on that planet) stupid enough to continue total war even in environmental cataclysm. Is it creator point of view, or just story device?


Mark Yohalem Jul 2 @ 8:23am 
The gas has a pretty simple explanation, actually: the poisonous gas that Metropol was using to attack Urbani was transported via underground train, likely from Factor's plants to the missile launch pads at Portside Station (on the Yellow Line of the subway system). MetroMind had ample opportunity for some to get lost in transit.

I've never been particularly persuaded by Asimov's three laws: I'm not sure that you could formulate them at a broad enough level without it being too vague for a machine to process. In this case, I'm sure MetroMind *did* have a host of rules (don't run people over with trains!) but I'm not sure there would be anything saying, "Don't release purloined nerve gas" either at a broad or specific level. There was no reason to think MetroMind would go bad; she simply took the "Way of the Future!" propaganda they wrote about her too seriously.

I think humans are sadly likely to fight total war in an environmental cataclysm. Resource shortages and all that.
Zampina Jul 2 @ 5:38pm 
And also i dont think their coding is too restrictive, because the machines have the opportunity to build and upgrade themselves. They can build other machines, and knowing how to code them, each machine can also code herself (or create someone to do so). We are talking of sentient robots in the end. :)
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