Daniel Costa Jul 15, 2013 @ 11:42am
Still too expensive
Come on.
This game is abandonware. I know it is a classic, and I'd love to have it in my library, but there are no steam achievements, no improved graphics, no additional content, no nothing... They are charging for exactly the same game that we could download legally for free.
If it was like 25 cents it would be already too expensive.
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Blzut3 Jul 15, 2013 @ 3:38pm 
Uhhh... You realize abandonware means that it's not sold anywhere and the developer/publisher can't be found to republish it right? There's no way download this game legally besides purchasing it here (or a few other places).
Daniel Costa Jul 15, 2013 @ 4:38pm 
Sorry, what I meant was "They are charging for exactly the same game that we could (in the past) download legally for free."
I'm not denying the publisher's money, but haven't they gotten enough over the decades? It just seems sometimes that they use the games and squeeze them until the last drop.
If it was cheaper, a lot of people who have actually never played it could enjoy it for the first time. For the price it is, most people with rather buy L4D2, the Killing Floor and etc.
PS: I did a quick search and it's still in some abandoneware sites such as myabandonware, abandonwaredos, abandongames and xtcabandonware. I don't know if it is legal hence I did not provide any links.
khardencooper Jul 15, 2013 @ 7:48pm 
dude, is only $2.99... less than a starbucks cup, or a burger. Except for the dollar menu. That is really cheap.
Blzut3 Jul 15, 2013 @ 9:31pm 
Yeah, any abandonware site hosting a game sold here on Steam or on GOG is just your average piracy site. Even the term abandonware itself has no legal meaning.

Keep in mind that these games were originally sold for $60 back in 1992. I don't think $3-$5 is asking too much for the game. The enjoyment to be had from the game is the same as it was back in the day. (Although with source ports now there's even more.) Better graphics doesn't make a better game.
Daniel Costa Jul 16, 2013 @ 1:42am 
Yeah, I also think that better graphics don't mean better games and that it's not that expensive by itself, but comparing to newer games like L4D2, for example, people will just go for the better engines, better graphics, better gameplay, etc. I just wanted more people to know this old school game and so it should be more accessible.
By the way, it used to cost $60 more than 20 years ago. Think about how much money they have earned over the years. They earned their money already, let it go. Why couldn't they cheaper it up, since it's a classic? That's the problem: they are always trying to make the most money out of it.
Develop a new game and charge accordingly. That's my opinion.
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Daniel Costa Jul 16, 2013 @ 1:51am 
Check this out: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=106120073
This is what I mean, if they are going to charge this price.
Blzut3 Jul 16, 2013 @ 2:19am 
Well if you're just looking to show the game off to new people, that's what the shareware is for (first 10 levels are free as you probably already know). It's clear I'm not going to be able to change your opinion here, but personally I don't buy into the "it's old, it should be free" logic. Sites like gog.com built an entire business around selling older PC games (although now they've branched out a bit), so the demand is definitely there. ;)

Regarding wolfram, as someone involved in Doom and Wolf3D source ports, I've always found the high resolution and what not stuff to just be ugly. The original game art was designed to look well with the engine limitations, so just throwing lighting and high resolution textures on top of it loses the imagionary detail that the classic resources have. It is really rare that any of them are done "right," but to each his own.
Relanukh Jul 16, 2013 @ 1:53pm 
I agree with you Blzut3! :D
hopeseeker_86 Jul 17, 2013 @ 3:00pm 
Originally posted by Daniel Costa:
Come on.
This game is abandonware. I know it is a classic, and I'd love to have it in my library, but there are no steam achievements, no improved graphics, no additional content, no nothing... They are charging for exactly the same game that we could download legally for free.
If it was like 25 cents it would be already too expensive.

I totally agree with the OP. Beats me how can one ask money for a 21 years old game.
Urihater Jul 18, 2013 @ 11:49pm 
I don't mind them charging by the game because it's property of id Software and they are in the legal right of still selling this, also I remember paying like 40 bucks for it years ago and I still think it was worth it.

However, I think they could polish it up a little. Maybe make a new sourceport, like the one available at the XBOX Live Arcade, which has achievements and so on? And why is there no Linux or Mac support? If the game is running on DOSBox, which runs natively on both systems, it should come for Linux and Mac users too.

So yeah. This is one of the first games I bought when I joined steam because it was worth it and owe it a lot. But it would be nice if the polished it up a little bit. Because claiming the game runs by itself is a disrespect to the people behind the DOSBox project who created the emulator.

Bethesda can do it, they already did for XBOX, so why not?
Blzut3 Jul 19, 2013 @ 2:32am 
As a source port developer, I'm kind of glad they haven't updated it... yet. :P After seeing what horrible job they did putting the Doom 2 BFG edition (I'm not talking about censorship, I'm talking about needless changes that caused incompatibilities. You can still censor the nazis without breaking anything), I'm not sure an updated release is all that desirable. As I understand it the Xbox 360 and PSN releases had to remove the Pacman ghosts as well.

Any how, yeah I'm not sure why Valve hasn't included DOSBox with Steam and require all developers to use their version. There really is no excuse otherwise for the games not being available for Mac or Linux. Oh well, at least you can use Wine to download the files and run them natively with a source port.
Big Papa Jul 23, 2013 @ 11:55am 
This game is really cheap
Adam_G1 Aug 3, 2013 @ 7:14am 
OP sounds like a cheap bit*h.
Lion Heart Aug 3, 2013 @ 1:05pm 
hahaha ok if its too expensive why are you making a thread about it? either buy it or dont none of us care
Daniel Costa Aug 3, 2013 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by Legio VI Victrix Lion Heart:
hahaha ok if its too expensive why are you making a thread about it? either buy it or dont none of us care
If YOU don't care, YOU are the one who should NOT be posting anything here and should go away with your ignorance.
There is a reason for this to be called a forum... it's a place for people to express their opinions and you should be at least inteligent enough to know that.
Some people agree and others don't, that is the purpose of a discussion.
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