Infestation: Survivor Stories

Infestation: Survivor Stories

trasalongtail Jul 22, 2013 @ 2:23am
This game is worth keeping on steam
Let try to place my thoughts through as best I can. Here is a couple of things I keep hearing about in hatred, but I see has a purpose.

"The game isn't worth it, it is set up for pay2play"

You are playing a game that uses servers, servers aren't free. This game is similar in set up to many free 2 play games. Yes you can buy basically everything in the store, but all the items you can buy, you can actually scavenge for, if you look hard enough. Also, items bought are lost after you are killed, making such "advanages of paying member" void upon death.

[update]: Thanks to Novuhz for reminding me: The market place also sells items for in-game money [which can be obtained through random drop after killing zombies]

"I died and lost all the items I collected, this game sucks"

The game has coinciquinces for being killed and rewards for killing players. This is a survival game, not an RPG. It is also not hard to place items in your vault, if you want to hold on to them. The game even tells you that you have to use your head and trust no one.

"The game is Play2Win."

I'd like to thank Novuhz for making this point clear for me and everyone that reads it:

"P2W is something that gives advantage over other players with no way of getting it by normally playing the game, a easy example is a game like

Ragnarok Online 2
''Ragnarok cuts straight to the point by offering straight stat perks: +5 to stats, +10% health, +10% sp, and +20% movement speed.''

All Points Bulletin
"The best weapons can only be obtained by paying real money and if you want them to be permanent be ready to pay more than 30 dollars for it! The difference betwen the non pay weapons is less bullet spread, more accuracy and better fire rate."

Simple as that.
P2W is when you can't obtain something by normally playing the game which it also gives advantage over other players, the only way to get it is by paying real money for it.

Now we look at Infestation Marketplace... Everything that is in the marketplace drops in game!
Let's not forget about the in-game cash that you get by killing zombies so you can buy bags, armor, helms, attachments, ammunition with it!
Let's also not forget that you can sell weapons/ammunition/bags/meds for GC there is players who pay GC for them. So all in all you can get everything by normally playing the game.
So P2S (Pay 2 Shortcut) is not pay 2 win."

"The revive system is ********."

The revive system makes sense, if your character is killed, you wait 1 hour, dann revive, but for convience, you can pay to revive the character immediately, but all items are still lost as with the waiting 1 hour. A one hour revive, is like a conciquince of dying, and if you actually played online games, you'd find some games require a similar wait time period. Items are lost so that the game isn't completely full of people the best items [now that would make for a bad game], and to give the killing player loot [which fits a survival game type]. This system also helps with paying for the servers and further development, if you choose the immediate revive.

"This game is full of glitches, not worth your time, don't buy"

Are there glitches at times, yes, but even playing many other online games like WoW, STO, SWTOR, & PoE; there are glitches. And reporting these glitches to the companies that own then doesn't always get you a response right away, or even at all. You also have to remember that when a glitch happens, its not just, "oh thats easy simple code here, simple code there" Someone has to actually go through the game, find out where the problem, then try to fix it without messing up other code that relies on the one you are changing.

And don't say, "they don't update the game." The last patch was only 19 days. That is not too long ago.

And when the servers went down just the other day [yes, I did experience it too]. The game was back up in just a couple of hours. That is better than some other server games that encounter a server problem/glitch.

"The game is full of hacker."

The owners of the game have been working on methods of minimizing the actions of hackers, such as the implimentation of "PunkBuster". I know some people who aren't hacking have commented about being disconnected falsely for hacking, but at least they are trying. Many programs that boot hackers look for certain criteria, which can sometimes mess up. Though similar anti-hack bots have done that on other online games as well.

A small personal thought

To finish off this long message, I would like to say something nice and simple. You may not like the game, but I know plenty of people that do [myself included]. You want a refund, for a game other people like, that you paid for, where you made the active choice to buy the game with your money, where others were commenting about the game badly and with the bad reviews. I think y'all are probably just looking for something to put your frustration on, but that is just a hypothesis.

Did I miss a complaint about the game? Please, leave a comment, but try to be mature about it.
Last edited by trasalongtail; Jul 22, 2013 @ 6:29am
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datCookie (Banned) Jul 22, 2013 @ 2:38am 
I'd just like to point out that people aren't complaining about the "pay2play" system, but rather the "pay2win" system. Which is in fact in the game.
trasalongtail Jul 22, 2013 @ 2:44am 
Originally posted by datCookie:
I'd just like to point out that people aren't complaining about the "pay2play" system, but rather the "pay2win" system. Which is in fact in the game.
could you illaberate "paytowin" than, because with what I see, the game is set up like most free2play games.
datCookie (Banned) Jul 22, 2013 @ 2:45am 
The concept of pay2win (P2W) is very simple. It involves having a marketplace that sells players items that give them a statistical advantage (skills notwithstanding) in the game. This concept is VERY common in most free2play (F2P) games.

However this game is in fact BOTH P2P and P2W which isn't as common and is in fact, met with much hatred.
trasalongtail Jul 22, 2013 @ 2:57am 
Originally posted by datCookie:
The concept of pay2win (P2W) is very simple. It involves having a marketplace that sells players items that give them a statistical advantage (skills notwithstanding) in the game. This concept is VERY common in most free2play (F2P) games.

However this game is in fact BOTH P2P and P2W which isn't as common and is in fact, met with much hatred.

oh, how is this game P2P? I don't pay a monthly fee to play, or are you refering to the payment for the intial download, which is common with some F2P games?

And the other thing, all items that can be bought in the market can be found thround through scavenging through towns and cities. and if the market item buyer dies, they lose the items they paid for, so its kind of a loss of money on their part.
Rare Pepe Jul 22, 2013 @ 4:24am 
This is excellent. I couldn't have put it better myself. :)
Dansmite Jul 22, 2013 @ 4:33am 
Great post op +1
Eu Sou o Pizza Jul 22, 2013 @ 4:38am 
Good post and this game is far away from being P2W.

So many clueless people around don't even know what P2W means anymore sadly.

Let's not forget they changed some marketplace stuff so you can buy more stuff using the in-game dollar cash you can buy bags, armor, helms, ammunition, weapon attachments, meds using in-game money.

Even before the changes all that stuff was easy to find in game.
Last edited by Eu Sou o Pizza; Jul 22, 2013 @ 4:43am
°♥Jazzy♥° Jul 22, 2013 @ 5:25am 
Its not a bad game only needs a bit of working on it
trasalongtail Jul 22, 2013 @ 5:35am 
Originally posted by _pavey_:
This is excellent. I couldn't have put it better myself. :)

Heh, thanks.

Originally posted by Dannyw7982:
Great post op +1

I have no idea what "op +1" means, but I'll take it as a compliment, thanks.

Originally posted by Novuhz:
Good post and this game is far away from being P2W.

So many clueless people around don't even know what P2W means anymore sadly.

Let's not forget they changed some marketplace stuff so you can buy more stuff using the in-game dollar cash you can buy bags, armor, helms, ammunition, weapon attachments, meds using in-game money.

Even before the changes all that stuff was easy to find in game.

Thanks for the extra intel, Novuhz. I had totally forgotten that part. Oh, and could you give me your definition of P2W? Because datCookie's definition confused me a bit.

Originally posted by °ღJazzyღ°:
Its not a bad game only needs a bit of working on it

True, its rough around the edges, but all-in-all a good game; thanks for the comment.
ARGNZXT Jul 22, 2013 @ 5:40am 
Well, Hammerpoint told us that 90% of the items will be for ingame currency in the store. This isn't the point so its P2W + lie.
trasalongtail Jul 22, 2013 @ 5:44am 
Originally posted by tehArgon:
Well, Hammerpoint told us that 90% of the items will be for ingame currency in the store. This isn't the point so its P2W + lie.

I'm not sure about 90% [I'd have to count up how many are sold for in-game currency], but items are in the marketplace for in-game currency, so at least they did some of what they said, if it isn't 90%.
Eu Sou o Pizza Jul 22, 2013 @ 5:46am 
P2W is something that gives advantage over other players with no way of getting it by normally playing the game, a easy example is a game like

Ragnarok Online 2
''Ragnarok cuts straight to the point by offering straight stat perks: +5 to stats, +10% health, +10% sp, and +20% movement speed.''

All Points Bulletin
"The best weapons can only be obtained by paying real money and if you want them to be permanent be ready to pay more than 30 dollars for it! The difference betwen the non pay weapons is less bullet spread, more accuracy and better fire rate."

Simple as that.

P2W is when you can't obtain something by normally playing the game which it also gives advantage over other players, the only way to get it is by paying real money for it.

Now we look at Infestation Marketplace...

Everything that is in the marketplace drops in game!

Let's not forget about the in-game cash that you get by killing zombies so you can buy bags, armor, helms, attachments, ammunition with it!

Let's also not forget that you can sell weapons/ammunition/bags/meds for GC there is players who pay GC for them. So all in all you can get everything by normally playing the game.

So P2S (Pay 2 Shortcut) is not pay 2 win.

Last edited by Eu Sou o Pizza; Jul 22, 2013 @ 6:17am
xnux08 - running20 Jul 22, 2013 @ 5:49am 
http://wastedonsteam.com/usd/games/infestationsurvivorstories

Infestation: Survivor Stories has been played for a total of 36823.1 hours and is ranked 159th out of 5552. Each person averages about 16.6h of playtime. It was released 7 months ago.

i consider this game as a good one, the game itself, not the dev
trasalongtail Jul 22, 2013 @ 6:05am 
Originally posted by tehArgon:
Well, Hammerpoint told us that 90% of the items will be for ingame currency in the store. This isn't the point so its P2W + lie.

Just checked: ammo: 8 out of 45, melee weapons: 18 out of 27, Protection: 19 out of 37, food: 8 out of 16, support: 4 out of 12, weapon mods: 7 out of 19

making for a total 64 out of 156 [that is about 41%], but if you also include character customization purchases, it is 73 out of 165 [that is about 43%]
trasalongtail Jul 22, 2013 @ 6:13am 
Originally posted by Novuhz:
P2W is something that gives advantage over other players with no way of getting it by normally playing the game, a easy example is a game like

Ragnarok Online 2
''Ragnarok cuts straight to the point by offering straight stat perks: +5 to stats, +10% health, +10% sp, and +20% movement speed.''

All Points Bulletin
"The best weapons can only be obtained by paying real money and if you want them to be permanent be ready to pay more than 30 dollars for it! The difference betwen the non pay weapons is less bullet spread, more accuracy and better fire rate."

Simple as that.

P2W is when you can't obtain something by normally playing the game which it also gives advantage over other players, the only way to get it is by paying real money for it.

Now we look at Infestation Marketplace...

Everything that is in the marketplace drops in game!

Let's not forget about the in-game cash that you get by killing zombies so you can buy bags, armor, helms, attachments, ammunition with it!

Let's also not forget that you can sell weapons/ammunition/bags/meds for GC there is players who pay GC for them. So all in all you can get everything by normally playing the game.

you mind if I put this info up in the original post? because this is a good point, and I find it valid to point out.

Originally posted by xnux08:
http://wastedonsteam.com/usd/games/infestationsurvivorstories

Infestation: Survivor Stories has been played for a total of 36823.1 hours and is ranked 159th out of 5552. Each person averages about 16.6h of playtime. It was released 7 months ago.

i consider this game as a good one, the game itself, not the dev

You have the right to your opinion, I am not arguing that, but thanks for your comment.


Originally posted by Xlarge:
i got 300 hrs in STFU hackers love this game

Not to burst your bubble, but hackers like most games, they don't go and single out just one; and I never said hackers weren't in the game, only that the owners have taken steps in an attempt to minimize the hackers' actions, which if you play other online games as well, it doesn't always work, but thanks for the comment.
Last edited by trasalongtail; Jul 22, 2013 @ 6:14am
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