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Caedo (Αποκλεισμένος) 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 6:14μμ
Banned on the forums. This is ridiculous
Not only was I banned permanently on the forums (with only 2 warnings total) but it was a banning from a JOKE I posted in reply to someone. They gave me one warning for another joke and one warning for what, in their OPINION was 'slander', but which was complete fact. (Therefore not slander, by definition) I'm utterly disgusted. Not surprised, just disgusted. I'll now be using all the saved forum threads and screenshots of the forum I have saved to warn everyone I can away from this unethical company.
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RizZo 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 6:25μμ 
Well what did you say?
Caedo (Αποκλεισμένος) 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 6:29μμ 
One was a warning for a picture in my signature that was a quote from someone else... it said "This is hammerpoint. Left is right and up is a ham sandwich. Nothing here makes any sense".

The other was when I was talking to someone who was saying Hammerpoint was stupid for marketing as a survival game since there was no survival in it. I said "sure there is. You're surviving cheaters, surviving bad coding, and surviving misinformation. =D" That one I was permanently banned for, with no warning.

2 warnings.. permanent ban. The first one, ok maybe... the second one was fact (which doesn't fall under slander) and a joke, yet I was perm banned for it.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Caedo; 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 6:31μμ
Kokkuwi 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 10:47μμ 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Caedo:
One was a warning for a picture in my signature that was a quote from someone else... it said "This is hammerpoint. Left is right and up is a ham sandwich. Nothing here makes any sense".

The other was when I was talking to someone who was saying Hammerpoint was stupid for marketing as a survival game since there was no survival in it. I said "sure there is. You're surviving cheaters, surviving bad coding, and surviving misinformation. =D" That one I was permanently banned for, with no warning.

2 warnings.. permanent ban. The first one, ok maybe... the second one was fact (which doesn't fall under slander) and a joke, yet I was perm banned for it.

Are you really suprised with being banned for that second statement? Forum mods for all games are becoming extremely strict about what they allow on the forums. Have you been on the Guild Wars 2 forums recently? How about the Darkfall Forums? (If you play MMO's that is).

All I am saying is Forums are not what they used to be. Look at the WarZ forums, or any forums not actually. Forums today are "Internet War Rooms". "I HATE THIS GAME, YOUR STUPID AND IM RIGHT! YOUR IGNORANT FOR NOT LIGHTING THIS GAME!" (Etc.) Forums should be left for constructive feedback, clan stuff, and other game things.They way people react to constructive feedback can be wrong sometimes, but sometimes when fair stuff is written.I am happy to see a post on here asking people to group up, or people who are giving suggestions (Not that I am saying they will even be acknowledged.).

That was me trying to be unbiased.

(My thoughts) Both of the things you show here are both negative things against a game on their forums. Not constructive feedback, what-so-ever. I actually laughed because of how much of a victim you are playing here. regardless if it was a joke, what did you really expect? I could call you a whinning ♥♥♥♥♥, but how would you know if it was a joke or not.
Caedo (Αποκλεισμένος) 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 10:51μμ 
If anything, it should have been a warning. Both are obviously jokes to anyone with any sense of humor what-so -ever. The former had a freaking Dev laughing at it when it was first posted and the latter had several people laughing before the mod even saw it.

Also, nothing in the latter statement was untrue and I was banned for posting untrue statements to harm someone's reputation. (slander) I couldn't care less if I was banned for breaking the actual rules on the forum, but that's not the case.
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katsuragi 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 10:58μμ 
Thanks, we will all learn from your mistakes. Act like a child and you will get treated like one.
Caedo (Αποκλεισμένος) 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 11:00μμ 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από katsuragi:
Thanks, we will all learn from your mistakes. Act like a child and you will get treated like one.

Yeah, so sorry having a sense of humor seems to be childish to some people.
Kokkuwi 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 11:00μμ 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Caedo:
If anything, it should have been a warning. Both are obviously jokes to anyone with any sense of humor what so ever. The former had a freaking Dev laughing at it when it was first posted and the latter had several people laughing before the mod even saw it.

Also, nothing in the latter statement was untrue and I was banned for posting untrue statements to harm someone's reputation. (slander) I couldn't care less if I was banned for breaking the actual rules on the forum.

Some people think the word f** is funny. Some people despise the the use of the word. It's all opinion.(Kind of a weird example, but I think it works.) Maybe one dev thought it was funny, another didn't and banned you. Maybe some see it as just a joke, and others see it as just hate.

I could call your second statement an untrue statement. I am not, but your statement can clearly be read as an opinion.

Btw...2 warnings is alot of warnings....Why should anyone think your gunna stop after TWO warnings.

edit: f** as in a homosexual.
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Caedo (Αποκλεισμένος) 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 11:02μμ 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Wonderweiss:

I could call your second statement an untrue statement. I am not, but your statement can clearly be read as an opinion.

Btw...2 warnings is alot of warnings....Why should anyone think your gunna stop after TWO warnings.

It says on the forum itself that 10 warnings is a ban. Not two. My statement had nothing in it that wasn't fact, so no... it isn't opinion. There's bad coding, there are cheaters, and there's misinformation about this game everywhere. 3 points... all true.

The difference is, swearing IS against the rules so it's not quite the same thing.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Caedo; 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 11:04μμ
Kokkuwi 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 11:06μμ 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Caedo:
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Wonderweiss:

I could call your second statement an untrue statement. I am not, but your statement can clearly be read as an opinion.

Btw...2 warnings is alot of warnings....Why should anyone think your gunna stop after TWO warnings.

It says on the forum itself that 10 warnings is a ban. Not two. My statement had nothing in it that wasn't fact, so no... it isn't opinion. There's bad coding, there are cheaters, and there's misinformation about this game everywhere. 3 points... all true.

I can say the coding is fine. I can also call it a fact. Am I Right? Wrong?

Tell me this: Do you find the coding to be bad now and why?
Caedo (Αποκλεισμένος) 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 11:07μμ 
There IS bad coding in it. Bugs are bad coding. Everyone makes mistakes and that's fine, but that doesn't change the fact that it's bad.

Especially bugs that affect the gameplay that have been in the game since the beginning.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Caedo; 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 11:08μμ
Kokkuwi 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 11:13μμ 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Caedo:
There IS bad coding in it. Bugs are bad coding. Everyone makes mistakes and that's fine, but that doesn't change the fact that it's bad.

Especially bugs that affect the gameplay that have been in the game since the beginning.

Fair point. The way you say it in your post on the forums seems more hostile, though, if that makes sense.

Like I said, forums now-a-days don't take ♥♥♥♥ from nobody. People are becoming more aggressive on the forums then before. Mods then begin to become more protective. This now becomes a cycle on forums.

Btw, I still find your claim to be opinion. I could say the game has ok coding.

edit: I do play the game, but I am trying to keep this as unbiased as possible. I am not saying you are wrong, but that your way of thinking is not the way Mods are thinking. Expecially on forums now.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Kokkuwi; 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 11:19μμ
Caedo (Αποκλεισμένος) 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 11:19μμ 
In which case it could have been deleted and/or a warning given. I could've explained something. (oh wait, I did explain it was a joke, per the forum rules, and was ignored/banned again) I thought that was what the warning system was for.. .but apparently only for certain of the mods. (Heck, I'd have deleted it MYSELF if someone had asked me to)

As I've said, if I was banned for actually breaking one of the rules, that would be fine with me.. but for a joke? There are known trolls and people that constantly insult others and spam the forums that are still there right now, but I guess I was the bigger threat for making jokes. Oh well.

I'm not even ticked at Hammerpoint themselves (over this) just the mod who did it. I've been a mod several times and even a community manager once before and I'd have had a serious discussion with one of my moderators that banned someone for a joke while leaving well known rulebreakers alone.

Edit: There are several things in the game that the devs themselves admit aren't working correctly. I'm not sure what to call that other than bad coding, so I still don't find that to be opinion. A friend of mine was banned for spreading misinformation for saying the "super zombie" being killed in the game was just a lie... considering a Dev (one who would definitely know) said it wasn't in the game yet, that isn't misinformation either.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Caedo; 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 11:26μμ
WooTs 15 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 11:56μμ 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Caedo:
This is hammerpoint. Left is right and up is a ham sandwich. Nothing here makes any sense".


haha that was pretty good
Caedo (Αποκλεισμένος) 16 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 12:03πμ 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από WooTs:
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Caedo:
This is hammerpoint. Left is right and up is a ham sandwich. Nothing here makes any sense".


haha that was pretty good

It's more effective with the picture, but I didn't want to cluttler this forum up here with it. It's an in-game screenshot of a weathervane in one of the safe zones that shows the compass directions in the wrong places. But yeah that quote... It made me actually laugh when it was posted originally on the forums and one of the devs thought it was hilarious, so I saved it and started using it recently. I got a dozen PMs on the forums about it, saying how much people loved it. I guess a funny joke in the past isn't allowed on the current forums.
Siresly 16 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 6:23πμ 
Yeah recently they've seemingly taken a step back towards the way the forumZ used to be run.

A mod didn't like it when I said Hammerpoint had lied and falsely advertised, in a thread about Hammerpoint admitting to having lied and falsely advertised the location of rented servers.

"Accussing Hammerpoint of lying and false advertising are not welcome on the forum."
He said.

But hey, it's their forum, they can run it however they want. It's just funny that they're now trying to uphold this transparently artificial sense of integrity while silencing negative criticism by being all sneaky about it and pretending it's against the written rules.

EDIT
I was only warned by the way.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Siresly; 16 Μαϊ, 2013 @ 6:24πμ
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