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snobordin151 3 април 2013 в 4:54след.
IN DEFENCE OF WARZ!
There are alot of good things about this game alot of people are just shouting scam because someone else said it well here is my opinion yes ill admit it was poorly executed to the public at the beginning and yes it said it had alot that it just did not have. yes there are hackers. But what everyone is failing to notice is that warz has to deal with more hackers then any other game i've heard of. They are getting better with security and yes this latest hack did just happen where somone brought down the main server, but unlike target or any of those other big chains that have been hacked they did not get payment info.

The warz team is continually updating the game and adding new content and making it more secure all the time, the things slowing it down are all the bad press from people who are whining about how its a SCAM ITS A SCAM blah blah blah yeah you can read what everyone else says and repeat it good for you.

Yes it is a hard game always watching out at the beginning for zombies and some random guy with a gun who could shoot you and you'd be done. but that is what makes it good it provides a challenge rarley seen it gets closer to how you would have to act in a real apocalypse then most games discounting the fallout series. there are good people and if you just look you can find a pve server to start out on and make some friends so you dont just get blown away the first minute on a regular server. Also everyone who is calling for this to be taken off steam it is just childish, let people decide for themselves if they want to spend their money or not. Also if you do want to rant about how you hate warz there is now an anti warz group on steam go voice your opinions there instead of the same people posting the same thing over and over in these forums.

Also getting back to the original topic yes warz you cannot drive in there are no currently working vehicles, it is my beleif that one day they will be but you hardly notice it when your in the action of warz. Also yes some things need to be fixed in game but that takes time and it is being fixed slowly but surely.

The positives

The game has a good community minus hackers. The game content is continually being added to and refined. The entire idea and gameplay is great in my book, the reality having to get food water ammo, always having to watch your back. there are new things coming out like a new map of california was reportedly in the works and was going to come out soon before the big hacker attack recently. Also another plus it is only a one time payment of 15 dollars to play no monthly subscription or anything

The Negatives

Lots of hackers. It was poorly advertised in the beginning. A very hard game (tip: if you die right away look on here for a pve server or anywhere and join them meet some friends get better equiped then go into pvp worlds.)


Edits (stuff that is serious that people have posted that should be up for all to know

1.)
Originally posted by Dallas:
Sergei Titov said they had a 400 square kilometer map, that servers could hold 250 players. Said that even with 250 players on the server, the map was so big that you'd only come across other players every 15 minutes.

The thing is their zombie mod for War Inc. could never deliver these numbers, he simply pulled these numbers out of a hat, because they were bigger than DayZ's 225 square kilometers and 40 player servers. When he posted these exaggerated claims on the Steam sale's page, people felt cheated, because what was advertised wasn't what they bought.

He was forced to edit the Steam sale's page several time.

Originally it read: Several worlds over 400 square kilometers.
After criticism he changed it to: Between 100 and 400 squre kilometers.
After more criticism he changed it again: Over 100 square kilometers.

After that Steam had enough and took WarZ down.

Now it simply says: Huge world!

Because Colorado isn't 400 square kilometers.
Colorado isn't even 100 square kilometers.

It's probably somewhere between 10 and 30 square kilometers.

The size of Colorado is only one of the many controversies in WarZ's short lifespan

Edit # 2

Posted by Discryptor

OP while you are entitled to your opinion, I disagree. The game itself, I did enjoy, for a time. I played it in the beginning and this is where it all started to go downhill for me. The game itself has never really been the issue, but the companies actions and community support is so far below par that this game should be wiped from all known existence.

When a lot of us started playing it was in alpha, there were bugs.... but the moment anyone said a ba word about these bugs on the forums.... boom.... thread deleted. Their customer service was ♥♥♥♥ and it hasn't improved in recent times. But due to this procedure, stuff all bugs were fixed, and HP thougt their ♥♥♥♥ didnt stink

A lot of people bought the $50 legends pack back then, which was meant to include 3 months free of stronghold servers....... now some months on we have servers we have to play for, we have a working microtransaction market, but nothing about the free stronghold servers still.......

The artwork...... to be frank.... I think their artwork on the forums at present is bad.... It is amazing that after HP were made to remodel their website after being caught using images from elsewhere(quite blatantly), that their new images sucked ♥♥♥♥.....

Fairfight system....... oh my, what a failed system......What hack osnt set up as an overlay nowadays? I have more chance of winning the lottery then fairfight has in catching someone with legitimet proof. You are kidding yourself if you feel this system works in anyway shpe or form. You know the hacking in this game probably would be nowhere near as bad if Sergey himself didnt say "this game is unhackable" WRONG..... alk about sending an open invite ....

There was the steam failure..... a blatant blatant case of false advertising. Sergey even admitted that what they wrote is what they wrote... we just missintepreted it.... wow..... several thousand people misinterpreted an advert....... Steam never gives refunds...or very raely, so for Steam to give ANYONE a refund, it must be bad.

You noted security and HP's efforts to continue upgrading the security..... what a ♥♥♥♥ing joke, are you serious? After the events of the last 2 weeks, do you really think that you can make a statement like that and believe it is valid? They were hacked, and not just in that someone got access to the forums...... the whole game client, sever files, player details, databases....etc. This is a monumental failure. There hasnt been this kind of failure since Sony's DCUO got hacked and they hd to shut the game down for 2 weeks. And this wasnt the first time that hp had security issues. Devin Hutchinson's account was hacked and had the entire forums deleted...... and in HP's wisdom they didnt have a backup of the forums........ and now with this latest saga, it quite clearly proves that their security is quite bad. ANYONE who has joined the website.

Of course HP were looking to make a few dollars, what company isn't, but they business practises leave a lot to be desired. They release a game that should of stayed in /alpha/beta a lot longer then what it should have. More of the bugs, issues, hacking problkems should of been sorted long before opening up the GC market and purchasable servers. HP had already been getting money from people buying the game initially, so they should of not bee so desperate for money.

The thing that really did it for me, was that this game..... the game they claim to have been in development for 2 years(which there is proof if admins stating otherwise) that they had worked so hard on developing, was no more then a copy paste from war inc plus a few zombies. The characters were the same. The items/random vehicles/landscape/buildings was all a direct port from War Inc. It even had the same bugs as war inc......... They werent claiming this was a mod(like day z) HP were claiming it was a newly developed game they had spent years on developing..... wrong.

This was nothing more then a cash grab and anyone with half a brain can see this. But if you feel you should keep providing Kewk and others a holiday around the states in their flash cars and ♥♥♥♥ then go ahead.... its your money, throw it away as you wil


Note: Now i know someone out there will not like what i have to say and i respect that, i probably violated some rul or guidline i honestly do not know. But if your going to report this just to have it taken down so there is not anything else showing the other side of the story, then that is sad. Now i realize there is some bias in this as i like the game and will always rcommend it. but if there are some points i missed on either side feel free to message them to me and i will add to this post but please be respectful.
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Zachary Aldenhoff 3 април 2013 в 4:56след. 
well put man i love this game. i bought my own private server. so no people killing me and my friends or hackers!!!!
Kraken5886 3 април 2013 в 4:56след. 
Its a scam because it is a scam. We yell its a scam for all the false advertising and thus it will forever be titled a scam. This game deserves to burn in a fire.
Kraken5886 3 април 2013 в 4:58след. 
@ ''The positives'' Hackers, people who shoot to kill no matter what...must buy your own server to enjoy...false advertising (Steam should remove it because of this). Yea its not good even its meta score shows it yet people are so oblivious.
Dallas, not Dallas 3 април 2013 в 5:00след. 
If only Hammerpoint had put as much effort into WarZ as OP has in his post.
snobordin151 3 април 2013 в 5:00след. 
that is your defence really im looking for someone with meaningful words not just its a scam because its a scam. also there were many games that false advertised check out skyrim the same thing happened they said the dlc's would work on the computer right away but they did not because there was a problem with the code and it was really hard to fix same thing the code and putting in the required mechanics for vehicles was harder then they originally thought but they are still trying to put those in
Kraken5886 3 април 2013 в 5:01след. 
Also you dont find food and water nor anything else. YOU BUY IT! Scammer point is constantly moving more items into the cash only section and nerfing the loot. California has been planned MONTHS AGO. All these updates were suppose to be here MONTHS AGO! Remember them saying its been in dev for TWO YEARS. Subscription? Its not a MMORPG far from it. They only say its the first ''mmorpg'' to attract sorry lads. The real first mmorpg is dead frontier (2005) and its a game not a pay to play game.
snobordin151 3 април 2013 в 5:02след. 
the meta score is based off when it was first released also it is not going to go up for a while because so many people are following the crowd and saying it is bad without trying it
snobordin151 3 април 2013 в 5:03след. 
i can find food and water easy check some of the highway junctions, check norad for guns check anywhere for a flashlight
«Survivor» 3 април 2013 в 5:03след. 
Reviews are Irrelevant. Everyone hated Duke Nukem: Forever yet I still play and enjoy it. Reviews are based off a single persons opinon. If you make your decision for buying a game off some reviews, then you need to take a second look at what decisions you make. Reviews are typical highlights of the pros and cons. Just because a single person says that the game is a mess doesnt mean that everyone will roll with the trail and agree with that statement
Kraken5886 3 април 2013 в 5:03след. 
Първоначално публикувано от snobordin151:
that is your defence really im looking for someone with meaningful words not just its a scam because its a scam. also there were many games that false advertised check out skyrim the same thing happened they said the dlc's would work on the computer right away but they did not because there was a problem with the code and it was really hard to fix same thing the code and putting in the required mechanics for vehicles was harder then they originally thought but they are still trying to put those in
Two years to add vehicles yet dosnt happen. I wonder why code problems never happen with other games concerning vehicles? This isnt really logical. Also they never said such a thing about this ''problem''. All they said was that it was there.
snobordin151 3 април 2013 в 5:04след. 
also it would have been here sooner if not for the abnormally large hacker base that has been atttracted to it which even you have to say is an abnormal amount of hackers for one game
Kraken5886 3 април 2013 в 5:04след. 
Първоначално публикувано от snobordin151:
the meta score is based off when it was first released also it is not going to go up for a while because so many people are following the crowd and saying it is bad without trying it
Meta score was before it was removed and when it was removed so was the meta score. When they added it again they redid the meta score. Didnt improve at all did it?
Essedus 3 април 2013 в 5:04след. 
Първоначално публикувано от snobordin151:
also there were many games that false advertised check out skyrim the same thing happened they said the dlc's would work on the computer right away but they did not because there was a problem with the code and it was really hard to fix same thing the code and putting in the required mechanics for vehicles was harder then they originally thought but they are still trying to put those in


You're going to compare a AAA title like skyrim and bethesda/zenimax to a game with a company behind it thats changed names like 3 times to disassociate itself with it's previous failures?
You've gotta be kidding me, what the hell is wrong with you people?
Kraken5886 3 април 2013 в 5:04след. 
Първоначално публикувано от snobordin151:
also it would have been here sooner if not for the abnormally large hacker base that has been atttracted to it which even you have to say is an abnormal amount of hackers for one game
Probably alot of people hacking this because they want to destroy it for being a scam.
Kraken5886 3 април 2013 в 5:05след. 
Първоначално публикувано от Essedus:
You're going to compare a AAA title like skyrim and bethesda/zenimax to a game with a company behind it thats changed names like 3 times to disassociate itself with it's previous failures?
You've gotta be kidding me, what the hell is wrong with you people?
I know right. BTW this company has made whats considered the worst games in video gaming history with the top in the list- Big rigs over the road racing.
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