This Game is Killing my PC (win7) -,-

[Bonebreaker]

Hello, i use Win7 since it is released, i reinstall it last time when i update my Hardware (ca a half year ago). I never got any trouble with my system, no crashes, no bluescreen or something like.

Since i have Installd this game my PC crashed allready 5 Times (with bluescreen), Last time 5 min ago after i filled the login and was waiting that the black screen goes away. I was short afk (grab some food and so on) after i came back the PC restart itself and the Win7 Login screen was smiling on me.

And yea before someone ask, my drivers are all uptodate (allready checkd that after first crash), i keep my system real slim with just a few games and progs 4 work. I also scant my system and shut down firewall and antivir 4 testing. But this ♥♥♥♥ still crashes and i dont know why wtf.


If anyone has an Idea plz help.

[Redneckdevil]

Have alook at the games forums theres loads of people complaining bout crashes and huge amounts of lag,

[Isz]

I've been noticing odd lag spikes even when not in game, didn't think much of it till I read this thread. It wasn't an issue until yesterday.

[jyml99]

This game needs optimization, like badly. I've had 3 bluescreen crashes already due to overheating (gaming laptop).

[u b]

You can just say laptop.

[jyml99]

Wouldn't call a $2000 system just any laptop, that'd be ignorant.

[Donoghu]

Originally posted by jyml99:

Wouldn't call a $2000 system just any laptop, that'd be ignorant.

I wouldn't call a computer who have naturally 1/4 of the heat capacity and 1/8 of the internal space of a Desktop computer anything close to a gaming computer. Hardware might get smaller with new technology and produce less heat, but heat itself never changed. It's still a chimical reaction that travel fast, affect hardware directly and is easily distributed and kept even by small amount of dust.

The price got nothing do to with it. It's only logic, chimic and science.

Just to be sure, if you ever did or asked someone to do something close to overclocking, then you're the source of your own problem.

About the OP, you should check whatever runs on your PC. A good old CTRL+ALT+DEL, select Tasks Management and check what is rolling in both Process and Services. Do some research for every single one of those who are constantly working. (Simply google them and check what they does and if they are required.) Judge if you should stop them or keep them running. (You can change the services that launch with your PC start-up in the "Services" tool. Change "Automatic" to "Disactivated" or "Manual" in the case you know you might need them to run something.)

If you see nothing is wrong, then you might have some hardware problems. Maybe one of your hardware is about to break. (It's hard to tell.) It's a common thing for people who overclock their system and use it at 115% their capacity. (You know the "droplet torture"? It's the torture where you let one drop of water fall on the forehead of someone at the same place, at a constant rythme for hours. After a couple of hours, for the person who's tortured, it's like an hammer strike, except it's nothing as damaging. Overclocking is the same. It's slowly damaging each hardware faster then what was supposed and calculated as their lifespan. In other word, it's like if you use more bleach to clean your white clothes. they might get white easier, but your bleach bottle will be empty sooner.)

Also, whenever you upgraded your drivers, did you uninstall them before installing the new version? If not, that's bad. Unless you uninstall them prior to installing the new ones, some files can't be removed/changed by installing a new version. Some exception like whenever you got a software that instantly manage the drivers maintnance (ATI video cards for example). Those have some background tricks to allow updates by doing an uninstallation in the process.

Also, whenever you get a bluescreen, takes note of the numbers/codes that it is showing. Those are not there to look beautifull. (They are ugly actually... flashy blue with white text burning your eyes as well as making you angry as it's a system crash.)
Those code explain exactly what made the system crash. You will need to do some research to understand what didn't went well and forced your computer to show you that ugly screen.

[Isz]

Originally posted by donoghu:

Originally posted by jyml99:

Wouldn't call a $2000 system just any laptop, that'd be ignorant.

I wouldn't call a computer who have naturally 1/4 of the heat capacity and 1/8 of the internal space of a Desktop computer anything close to a gaming computer. Hardware might get smaller with new technology and produce less heat, but heat itself never changed. It's still a chimical reaction that travel fast, affect hardware directly and is easily distributed and kept even by small amount of dust.

The price got nothing do to with it. It's only logic, chimic and science.

Just to be sure, if you ever did or asked someone to do something close to overclocking, then you're the source of your own problem.

About the OP, you should check whatever runs on your PC. A good old CTRL+ALT+DEL, select Tasks Management and check what is rolling in both Process and Services. Do some research for every single one of those who are constantly working. (Simply google them and check what they does and if they are required.) Judge if you should stop them or keep them running. (You can change the services that launch with your PC start-up in the "Services" tool. Change "Automatic" to "Disactivated" or "Manual" in the case you know you might need them to run something.)

If you see nothing is wrong, then you might have some hardware problems. Maybe one of your hardware is about to break. (It's hard to tell.) It's a common thing for people who overclock their system and use it at 115% their capacity. (You know the "droplet torture"? It's the torture where you let one drop of water fall on the forehead of someone at the same place, at a constant rythme for hours. After a couple of hours, for the person who's tortured, it's like an hammer strike, except it's nothing as damaging. Overclocking is the same. It's slowly damaging each hardware faster then what was supposed and calculated as their lifespan. In other word, it's like if you use more bleach to clean your white clothes. they might get white easier, but your bleach bottle will be empty sooner.)

Also, whenever you upgraded your drivers, did you uninstall them before installing the new version? If not, that's bad. Unless you uninstall them prior to installing the new ones, some files can't be removed/changed by installing a new version. Some exception like whenever you got a software that instantly manage the drivers maintnance (ATI video cards for example). Those have some background tricks to allow updates by doing an uninstallation in the process.

Also, whenever you get a bluescreen, takes note of the numbers/codes that it is showing. Those are not there to look beautifull. (They are ugly actually... flashy blue with white text burning your eyes as well as making you angry as it's a system crash.)
Those code explain exactly what made the system crash. You will need to do some research to understand what didn't went well and forced your computer to show you that ugly screen.

This whole post is apologist rhetoric that negates both deductive reasoning and occam's razor.

[Bonebreaker]

Hello again, i tried last days a bit to prevent my game from crashing, including clear install of new drivers, reinstall and so on. But seems like it dint help. still got the problem that the game crashes random and i sometimes even get a blue screnn.

Dont know what to do. I mean i wanna play this game but with all the crashes it gets realy frustrating.

[GeoPin]

Trust me, look for my other posts and other peoples posts in regards to this issues. basically it is a PC spec issue, despite how you spend it has to be right specs, I know this from exp with this engine. quick example the last PC I crashed all the time with was an Alienware 2.3 ghz aurora r3 with geforce 560 card, yes it crashed all the time. I have new HP PC 2.6 geforce 660 10 gb memory and now I havent crashed on any game period, out of about 500 games. i am no way being an elistist, it is just my exact exp. over actual years with that engine.

[Bonebreaker]

so if i understand you right, you mean the game engine this game use could be incompatible with my hardware?

FX-8350 (8core), 16GB DD3, Radeon HD 7850, SSD Drive and so on.

[Fat Mike]

Originally posted by Bonebreaker:

so if i understand you right, you mean the game engine this game use could be incompatible with my hardware?

FX-8350 (8core), 16GB DD3, Radeon HD 7850, SSD Drive and so on.

It sounds like a heat or driver issue BB. None of which are your fault. I would monitor temps first(Core temp & MSI afterburner) then try an older, reliable driver set for you card.

AMD has yet to release an optimized set of drivers for MH or PoE. Both amazing games that keep getting skipped over by the team. They don't even get an honorable mention. =/

Good luck.

[Zee_]

This game runs hot... like... super hot. It needs a metric ton of optimisation or something.

I can play games that are much better looking with more polys, more particle effects, etc and have my temps max out at about 65 degrees celcius with all graphics options maxxed. Marvel Heroes on the other hand runs at 60 degrees celcius at min graphics settings, at max it'll take my graphics card to 85+. Oh yeah, and this is in a house where the ambient temperature never gets above 75 faranheit and I have my all the fans in my case running at 100% when these temps happen.

There are better looking and better running UE3 games out there that don't run anywhere near these temps. I don't know what Bajillion did to make the unreal engine run so freaking hot, but its an issue that needs to be looked at asap.

[Bonebreaker]

Originally posted by IRONLEG:

It sounds like a heat or driver issue BB. None of which are your fault. I would monitor temps first(Core temp & MSI afterburner) then try an older, reliable driver set for you card.

Yea i also had allready this idea, i monitored on my second screen the whole system (gpu, cpu temp, speed, usage and my ram, network etc.) and what should i say all was normal gpu was not more than 53degrees and cpu max was 45.
Well i must in catalsyst set gpu fan to manual in order to work normal. with auto settings the fan runs only wit 25% even when gpu is on max usage then the temp goes up over 63 degrees.
Im using the newest 13.4 Driver package.

[GeoPin]

You can do all the tech specs ya want, I am telling you it is a Spec issue as I have found out over time since the day ut3 came out and has since been used in alot of PC games and I am specifically speaking ut3 on the PC. No idea about it's use with consoles. But my gaming time with UT Quake and HL series goes back to it's roots The perspective I speak from is 1st hand experience, with the various unreal 3 engine games I play which is quite a few. I normally would not press issue, but I know what I know.

[GeoPin]

To be blunt the Mother-♥♥♥♥♥♥' Engine takes an ungodly amount of processing power and gobbles up most all your resources. It does on this newest PC which has not crashed 1 time on any game. I repeat not 1 time and I know I am not the only which kills the overheating issue because, that's essentially what my alienware did and it met specs, but crashed. Think I wasn't bummed a 2500 dollar PC didn't cut the mustard right of the box it was a let down. It basically was heating up as you were talking about. Which gets me back to why it's a Spec issue, it overheats because not enough processing power and then locks up PC. The Min. Specs were obviously not truthfully told from the beginning from Epic on this.