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Murican Patriot Feb 21 @ 11:57am
is the game dead?
is it? i mean thousands of ppl used to play......now its 400 ppl at most
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stormr69 Feb 21 @ 12:59pm 
New season will come out and things will pick back up.
Kempy Feb 21 @ 5:15pm 
That 400 people only count steam users
dont count the people who dont have it though steam so will be more then 400
Insaner Feb 21 @ 11:37pm 
I have a feeling it will eventually be featured as free to play and there will be huge numbers, but one can only hope. imo this game has probably my favorite pvp gameplay of all time. If this was free to play from the start it would have done much better.
Vargas78 Feb 22 @ 3:11am 
The existing model offers excellent value. £6.99 is a bargain i think. The problem was the game got a lot of bad press on launch, and it was probably too expensive for what it was, when it first came out. But it remains a decent and underrated game.

For an mmo, it has good a.i., perhaps the best if you compare it to what passed for a.i. in other mmo's. And it was unfair or reviewers to compare it to the a.i. of single player games.
Frank2bad Feb 22 @ 4:08am 
its a good game, but toooo transparent. I like playing only if I have free time. the graphics, and game play can use an upgrade saying comparing to other games that I play on a daily basis.

Its not a bad game, but controls feel too loose, it doesnt take much skill, and it CAN be very repetative and boring. The running and walking and even driving feels like its a grid, nothing is smooth and fluid. I can see why it went from thousands of players down to 400, it just lost its fun factor because of that and many reasons.

I wouldnt recommend because how it feels when playing, it was cool in the begining but quickly lost its fun factor and would hate for others to buy the game, but lose interest in it from fixable things. It should have an update of the not fluid movements and driving to make it MORE realistic, possibly graphics so its not so plastic looking, the way the guns fire and its effect on enemys plus more.
Badhabit Feb 22 @ 11:55am 
Weird commend about graphics and game play, consider how popular WoW was, but it graphics is also very "plastic" looking, it's question about opinions, so I will leave it. Personally I think the graphics is just fine as it is. It's the story and the "world" that drive things forword.

The price is very low, consider many other MMORPG. And there is not a same type MMO out there that is like defiance, which is huge plus on my book.

When one speak about "skill" in MMORPG, most don't need skill, you just need to know what u need to do, which is same as in Defiance. There is just one huge difference, you don't get sleepy in Defiance, unlike in WoW or KOTOR.

The main problem about defiance is the ending, just like the WoW. You will get bored! But unlike WoW, as player numbers are few, the "sosial gaming" in Defiance is quite dead compare to WoW.
Snarfleeze Feb 22 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by Badhabit:
The price is very low, consider many other MMORPG. And there is not a same type MMO out there that is like defiance, which is huge plus on my book.
Pretty sure Firefall fits what you're talking about, and it's free.

The game isn't bad, it just didn't quite live up to the hype that they were trying to sell, and lead to a lot of people feeling disappointed, and also lead to many bad reviews.

I also hope it goes f2p at some point, just so we can see more players. Last time I was on, there was maybe ten others with me at a major arkfall, around release, it was jam-packed at around twenty to twenty five(more sometimes) and I had a blast.
Cero Feb 22 @ 3:25pm 
Firefall, or its devteam rather, are trash.

They keep advertising these "estimated" release dates, and then go "OH WAIT NO THIS ISN'T WHAT WE WANTED, DO OVER" like a child that keeps swinging a baseball bat, only to miss the baseball in P.E. class.

What's worse is that in the midst of all this, they're charging money for cosmetic items, and the damn game isn't even released.

So people who're investing money in this and have to stand by and watch as Red5 keeps playing the 'Do Over' game with their content are getting shafted pretty hard.

I honestly wouldn't put much faith in Firefall as it is.

They need to just stick with one development path and release the damn thing already.



(This is just my opinion. For all I know despite all the 'Do Overs', Firefall could end up releasing and be the best game ever.

I honestly won't be playing it even then, because I do not approve of a devteam that can't make up its mind regarding content. ♥♥♥♥ like that ends up making people lose money if Red5 decides they didn't like a certain cosmetic item that people bought.)
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Snarfleeze Feb 22 @ 5:13pm 
Oh no, I agree Cero, I was following Firefall for the passed few years, and when they released into Open Beta, I jumped on it as soon as I could. I was disappointed so much, and the events following with Red5 made me even less hopeful for it's future.

However, I was more saying Firefall is similar to Defiance with it being an open world third person MMO shooter. Both have similarities, both fall short in some areas. I have more faith in Trion than Red5, though.

The only "do over" I could accept was their removal of pvp, because it just wasn't being used by the players, making it a pointless feature that the removal of could put more focus on other areas.
jconan7777777 Feb 23 @ 3:38am 
I never thought this game was terrible, just too expensive and buggy for what you get.
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