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Elder Jiggs Jun 7 @ 9:25pm
F2P Players Beware...
You have to spend money to be able to buy T4 loot from NPC shops. The loot box costs 64 tokens & it limits F2P players cap to 50 tokens. So yea... Don't expect to get any T4 quality drops easily unless you wanna pay something.

You can get T4+ gear by other means but it will take you a long time as a fully F2P player.

I might keep playing this game for a little while, but Firefall is better & doesn't limit F2P players currency like this.

Last edited by Elder Jiggs; Jun 8 @ 1:47pm
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Tigerfish160 Jun 7 @ 10:25pm 
Haha another free to play that forces people to play. Good that they didn't even manage to fix their download.
Littlefinger Jun 7 @ 10:29pm 
what did you expected? F2P are never fair and theres always a catch, on free to play is always a cap for lvl to gear to whatever that turns into pay to win pay to progress........ thats why i always prefer to pay for full game rather than make endless microtransactions to see all content........
neoVictrix Jun 7 @ 10:50pm 
Most of the things I've gotten from tier 4 boxes were, for the most part, scrapped for ark salvage since I had better equipment from drops.

There's really no reason to "pay" for a gambling box.
NoXterium Jun 7 @ 11:19pm 
just saying, its not T4 "gear" that are T4 loot boxes, inside are things that can be gained from T3 and T2 boxes too.

I myself prefere to open only T2 boxes because you can buy many compared to T3 or T4(which i cannot).

The last rarity "orange" can be achived by upgrading an item.
I myself do not feel forced to buy the game at all.

But there really are alot of things that need to be understood/learned about the game that are not written anywhere.

Like the synergy mods + weapons. 4 synergy mods without the right weapon don't have any effect.
Last edited by NoXterium; Jun 7 @ 11:24pm
deadering Jun 8 @ 1:02am 
For those who do not play the game and are interested but don't understand this scare tactic: what he is referring to is simply a convenience item.
It's a locked chest with random loot. T4 being the highest chance for great items.

That said you can still easily get high level equipment, rare items, and all the things possible from T4 chests. This is no way hinders the game but for some reason this dude is trying to scare people away from the game.
makkunkun Jun 8 @ 1:16am 
Originally posted by deadering:
For those who do not play the game and are interested but don't understand this scare tactic: what he is referring to is simply a convenience item.
It's a locked chest with random loot. T4 being the highest chance for great items.

That said you can still easily get high level equipment, rare items, and all the things possible from T4 chests. This is no way hinders the game but for some reason this dude is trying to scare people away from the game.

You make venturing the forums worthwhile friend.
=HS=MADDMONKEY Jun 8 @ 1:28am 
My experience with T4 boxes has been very poor, Green weapons, Blue spikes and purple grenades never an orange anything. T4 is the sucker box in my opinion and I'll only go for the T3 boxes, T3 has been good for me but now I'll give T2 a go for a bit.

All we really have to go by is this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhDKIMOCd2bkdFlSdmNocG1HSHU4VVBXeXdoWDY3Qmc&usp=sharing#gid=1
jconan7777777 Jun 8 @ 1:53am 
When are these people going to get it that ALL f2p pvp games are p2w. That is what the business model they use is based on.
Secret Jun 8 @ 2:28am 
Well,made some research about this game,i personally have it,and i dont have limit and other crap...But seing my friends,well yes,this is P2W....And people mostly play the content from DLCs ,so,this is good just to waste some time,if you want play this seriously and enjoj full game,you will need DLCs......Dont get me wrong,but this is my personal opinion.....
Originally posted by jconan7777777:
When are these people going to get it that ALL f2p pvp games are p2w. That is what the business model they use is based on.

Stupid much?
Tigerspaz Jun 8 @ 3:52am 
You can get purple equipment by other means. Rare but it does happen. You don't only get purple from the T4 boxes.
low end theory Jun 8 @ 4:32am 
T4 boxes is not a special thing at all, i got orange weapons and shields in T2 and T3 lbxs. just play the volge sieges so you take a chance to get a rare/orange weapon, i got a nice volge orange blaster from there. i never got great weapon from T4, Trust.
Methanol Jun 8 @ 4:46am 
got an orange sniper from my 5th t3 box today so yeah.. dont think its p2w
but the f2p game without the dlcs seems to be lack of content
Etaew Jun 8 @ 5:00am 
Yeah T4 boxes aren't anything special, don't believe the scare mongering in the OP of this thread. You can purchase T3's which contain good equipment as well as receive good equipment from the large scale activities in the world.
Methanol Jun 8 @ 9:32am 
isnt the best actually the t2? its give you 2 uncommon at least, for 8, the t3 only gives 3 uncommon+ for 24..
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