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Trash Boat 25 juil 2013 à 21h46
I hate BATS
More specifically Vagulion, i just lost to him for two hours straight and makes me kinda regret setting the difficulty on nightmare... So anyone got any tips?
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Setzway 25 juil 2013 à 22h22 
Same boat as you my friend. Decided to call it quits after a straight hour fighting him and losing.

There was a thread a few pages back that had some useful hints, like trying to stick to the corners and running along the walls. Another tip said to try and run circles around him, after his bats get in a tighter cluster.

Personally I didn't find any of that to be helpful, especially circling him. What's working out for me(getting him down to half each time, usually) is saving right in front of chest for faster retry. Then running to the bottom right corner, wait until the farthest bat is within a centimeter and then running straight up to the top right corner, then straight left to that corner or hooking down at an angle then straight to left corner. Depending on how his bats are formed up. I like sticking to running along the walls and when I'm a centimeter ahead of the farthest bat, walk for a second then go back to running. Since you want to try to keep close for when he forms up.

This fight seems really lame on Nightmare, it'd be nice if when he forms it lasts more than half a second. It's like you only have miliseconds to hit him before he batplodes and the mob chases you around for 30-60 seconds. Really annoying.
Bryff 25 juil 2013 à 22h27 
Make sure you use the roda item and get the silver sword. You have to hit him as his wings are opening. If he forms in a corner it's easier to dodge the initial bat swarm when they are all apart, but if he forms in the center/center of top or bottom wall it's harder.
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Lue 25 juil 2013 à 22h43 
This boss is insanely easy once you get the silver sword.
Trash Boat 25 juil 2013 à 23h02 
on nightmare you can't hurt him without being level 10 and having the silversword, also i doubt you can beat him without silver everything unless you're extremly lucky. thats what this fight comes down to really, luck. This boss has no real consistent pattern and the hit detection seems wonky, he might just fly around as a billion little bats for 6 laps around the room and than transform once and do it again!
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Setzway 26 juil 2013 à 10h18 
Dash O'Pepper a écrit :
on nightmare you can't hurt him without being level 10 and having the silversword, also i doubt you can beat him without silver everything unless you're extremly lucky. thats what this fight comes down to really, luck. This boss has no real consistent pattern and the hit detection seems wonky, he might just fly around as a billion little bats for 6 laps around the room and than transform once and do it again!

^Yeah. That's what he likes doing with me, staying in bat form for quite a while. I can usually get hit once or twice but after two minutes of running around I take more damage because of how his bats spread out. The worst part is when he appears, you only have that half-second window to hit him, if you're to close it doesn't work and if you're to far you can reach in time. Just a really lame boss on Nightmare.
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Trash Boat 26 juil 2013 à 21h34 
I ended up beating vagullion and the rest of the game and can happily say that there are no more bosses like him. Also timed attack mode is a cakewalk compared to nightmare, im guessing the difficulty is on normal?
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Setzway 27 juil 2013 à 12h18 
Congrats on your victory! Unfortunately I'm still stuck on him. Had to quit and play some Vessel to simmer down. Glad to know there aren't anymore bosses like him and that Timed Attack is easier.
DarkMyau 27 juil 2013 à 23h11 
Ok. The way to beat him is to hug the walls. All the bats are following you, so you have to let them lunge at you. THis allows you to get around them and increases the amount of times he spawns.

The first time is always the hardest, took me ....I dont even know how many times to beat him lol.

Yes I beat him on nightmare
ChopperCharles 28 juil 2013 à 13h10 
If you think he was hard, wait till you get to Dark Fact... impossible, even on normal. even with all silver.
Trash Boat 28 juil 2013 à 13h41 
Dark fact took me less trys then vagullion though, overall i thought he was easier, i played on nightmare though which ramps vagullions difficulty/luck factor up quite a bit.
Hawkes 30 juil 2013 à 11h42 
So i've beaten vagulion but now im stuck at the part right after the fight i cant figure out where to go next the door in the next room is locked and nothing i do seems to open it ive ran around the world looking for items thinking i needed a certian item but couldnt find anything.

Can anyone tell me what im supposed to do next?
Trash Boat 30 juil 2013 à 11h56 
I believe you have to talk to jeba in zepik, then goban will let you into darm tower.
Hawkes 30 juil 2013 à 12h07 
Dash O'Pepper a écrit :
I believe you have to talk to jeba in zepik, then goban will let you into darm tower.
Thanks this seemed to be it sorta i had to have jeba read the books of YS i currently had then speak to goban went back to jeba and now i can go back to Goban to get into the tower these older games can be so confusing >_<
Trash Boat 30 juil 2013 à 12h20 
yeah older games never really gave you many hints, i guess wandering around untill you figured it out was seen as part of the gameplay back then.
Faded 1 août 2013 à 20h20 
just a tip of advice, dont play in full screen, if that was a pain to you, lmao than you dont want to know about Dark Fact
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