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FineVisionz Mar 30, 2014 @ 5:11pm
Looking for a joystick
Hello,
I am currently looking for a joystick and have done a lot of research about a lot of sticks. The most popular one seems to be the x52, but it seems to have a quite a bit of problems. I have seen people recomend the cheap and simple Logitech 3d pro. Anyways, What stick do you use and recommend.

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El Jefe Mar 30, 2014 @ 5:20pm 
I use CH Products Pro-throttle, Pro-Pedals, and Fighterstick.
Tatsue Mar 30, 2014 @ 6:06pm 
It all really depends on what kind of money you are willing to spend. There are options all the way from $50 to $500, and in general - the more you spend, the better it is, but obviously with some caveats.

To give a solid recommendation, your price range would be needed.

I use a Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog and Saitek Pro pedals. The pedals are fine, do the job, the HOTAS is awesome but at the top range of the price curve. Mostly good steel construction, solid feel, good build quality, and with all the buttons one could want - and for the A-10C, it's actually a "replica"; you'll get what the real guys use, so to speak.

I used the X52 prior to that, but it is a noticeably "cheap" HOTAS solution - a bit floppy for my taste in the stick, plasticky, and the PS/2 connector used between the HOTAS elements is prone to damage. But the control mapping software is awesome, and it does offer very good value for the money.

The Logitech 3D Pro I have used, but not in complex sims like DCS. It can get complicated to get a satisfying controller mapping with that one, potentially forcing you to use the keyboard for a lot of things. But if you are still on the fence on whether DCS (or sims in general) is something you really want to get into, it is definitely a good option to start with to let you fly while you explore the world of sims. If you end up really liking DCS (or other sims), you will probably end up replacing it very soon (with the x52 being a probably "step up"), but it is definitely an okey option to make sure you don't spend too much on kit you might not end up using very much if it turns out you don't like or don't have time to fly sims.
FeltHλt Mar 31, 2014 @ 1:26am 
I use now logitech 3d pro (right hand) and keyboard (left). Good thing for beginners. Id recommend it if you are not sure about flying. Its cheap so i didnt expect much but im pleased ^^
PickledGopher Apr 2, 2014 @ 2:07am 
Check out the new x55 rhino
El Hadji Apr 2, 2014 @ 2:22am 
If you are a flight sim buff and spend a lot of time with DCS, I can only recommend the Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog + Throttle. It is a amazing piece of kit. Sure, it IS expensive but totally worth it. Handling the A-10C became so much more enjoyable since I bought mine and that goes for all the other aircraft as well. Together with TrackIR 5 you get a completely different flying experience than with a average joytsick and mouse look.

If you are a more casual gamers who only play DCS now and then, the TM HOTAS might be a bit over the top though and as mentioned above the 3D Pro is a good enough entry level joystick.
Thrud Apr 3, 2014 @ 3:47am 
You can't bea the warthog... I moved to this from a logitech g940 (poorly supported and heaps of center slop) if you are new to this, just get a logi 3d pro and see if you like it... then get a track IR.... DCS will support oculus rift soon as well... early reports on x55 rhino -- bit plasticy.... google http://flightsimcontrols.com/ Mamba joysticks - getting a good name
Black Mamba Apr 3, 2014 @ 9:50am 
Well it all depends on how much you want to spend on your joystick.

0 to 50$ --> I would suggest the Logitech 3d Pro.

50 to 200$ --> It seems that the medal goes to the X55 (200$); the X52 has many problems hardwareside, but it's not bad at all for a stick. I would wait for the X55 tho.

200+ $ Go for the Thrustmaster Warthog, you will spend 500$ but it seems the absolute top for now.

Hope this was helpful :)
Zombiescu Apr 3, 2014 @ 2:01pm 
i own the tflight hotas x it is $50 with a throttle and stick good quality for $50 it is fairly stiff stiff enough that it wont flop everywhere i use it for all flight games has twist rudder also
Siggels Apr 4, 2014 @ 8:28am 
I use the Saitek X52 Pro and as Tatsue mentioned the HOTAS software is awesome. I've taken advantage of this using the IL-2 1946 and IL-2 CloD. My IL-2 HOTAS mappings are available at my website: britishfortress.com . I created a new keyboard map to simplify the trim commands, eliminating the commands not useful if one has a TrackIR and a HoTAS.

There is also in the Siggels' IL-2 Setup Readme a Utube link to fixing the floppyness in the stick.

I'm working on a HOTAS mapping for DCS as well and have developed an improved IL-2 keyboard and HOTAS mapping, which the DCS mappings will be based upon. But this will take some time to complete as testing will take time due to my in-experience with DCS.
Last edited by Siggels; Apr 4, 2014 @ 8:30am
Tatsue Apr 4, 2014 @ 9:09am 
When I first started using the x52, I actually went ahead and mapped the "normal" keyboard on there for giggles - and then proceeded to _slowly_ chat with friends on MSN without using the keyboard.

Stunts like that get old, but I'm not completely certain whether the problems I had with typing correctly were that it's a joystick, or that I was busy giggling all the time at the rediculousness of what I was doing. :D
Backmarker Apr 8, 2014 @ 6:42pm 
Originally posted by El Hadji:
If you are a flight sim buff and spend a lot of time with DCS, I can only recommend the Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog + Throttle. It is a amazing piece of kit. Sure, it IS expensive but totally worth it. Handling the A-10C became so much more enjoyable since I bought mine and that goes for all the other aircraft as well. Together with TrackIR 5 you get a completely different flying experience than with a average joytsick and mouse look.

If you are a more casual gamers who only play DCS now and then, the TM HOTAS might be a bit over the top though and as mentioned above the 3D Pro is a good enough entry level joystick.

I am considering downloading and trying DCS World.

Have you noticed a big improvement in aircraft control with better flight equipment? I have the Thrustmaster hotas X for my PS3 and it is a fair joystick (I think it cost me around $50. The hotas stick gives me problems with not being able to make smooth minor corrections! That means I can't hit squat with cannons and guns in air to air fighting or air to ground shooting!
thank you.
FineVisionz Apr 8, 2014 @ 6:51pm 
Originally posted by Backmarker:
Originally posted by El Hadji:
If you are a flight sim buff and spend a lot of time with DCS, I can only recommend the Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog + Throttle. It is a amazing piece of kit. Sure, it IS expensive but totally worth it. Handling the A-10C became so much more enjoyable since I bought mine and that goes for all the other aircraft as well. Together with TrackIR 5 you get a completely different flying experience than with a average joytsick and mouse look.

If you are a more casual gamers who only play DCS now and then, the TM HOTAS might be a bit over the top though and as mentioned above the 3D Pro is a good enough entry level joystick.

I am considering downloading and trying DCS World.

Have you noticed a big improvement in aircraft control with better flight equipment? I have the Thrustmaster hotas X for my PS3 and it is a fair joystick (I think it cost me around $50. The hotas stick gives me problems with not being able to make smooth minor corrections! That means I can't hit squat with cannons and guns in air to air fighting or air to ground shooting!
thank you.

If I were you, Download "War Thunder" and try it out. It is a free game via steam. It is not the best game, but it should answer your questions about your flight stick.
Backmarker Apr 8, 2014 @ 8:00pm 
Originally posted by FineVisionz:
Originally posted by Backmarker:

I am considering downloading and trying DCS World.

Have you noticed a big improvement in aircraft control with better flight equipment? I have the Thrustmaster hotas X for my PS3 and it is a fair joystick (I think it cost me around $50. The hotas stick gives me problems with not being able to make smooth minor corrections! That means I can't hit squat with cannons and guns in air to air fighting or air to ground shooting!
thank you.

If I were you, Download "War Thunder" and try it out. It is a free game via steam. It is not the best game, but it should answer your questions about your flight stick.

No thank you. I will try out the DCS World first. My original query still stands.
Thanks!
fearlessfrog Apr 8, 2014 @ 8:22pm 
To answer your original question Backmarker, yes it does make a difference, although it depends on:

- DCS allows you to set up the joystick in a lot of detail, i.e. deadzones, control curves etc. What this means is that even if your stick is 'rough' then you can adjust to make it work better.

- Different modules (aircraft) require different sets of controls. I prefer flying the Huey with an old MS SW II Forcefeedback stick, while the A10C is obviously really good with the TM Warthog HOTAS. With something like the P51 (or the FREE TF51 in the 1.2.8 beta (see the sticky up top to try it) work great with most sticks.

Hope that helps.
JOJO8play (BE) Apr 20, 2014 @ 12:53pm 
I have the X52 for 7 years and I still use it, and it works perfectly fine after all that time.
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