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Leon Dec 27, 2013 @ 4:20pm
Are the developers going to update Miasmata?
It's pretty slow on many peoples pc's and it could use some updates.
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ToYBoX Dec 28, 2013 @ 4:58am 
nope, looks like devs are mia and have stopped supporting miasmata. you can try find fixes on the forums, something the opposite of this, maybe:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/223510/discussions/0/648813727984980020/#p1
Leon Dec 29, 2013 @ 7:44am 
Ok, thanks.
That sucks pretty much, I hope the fixes are any good.
Dr. Aki Ross Jan 6 @ 6:26am 
Yeah, It sucks that They won't optomize the game. I can't really play it on my machine :(
Leon Jan 6 @ 7:48am 
Exactly, I can just play it on my pc on minimal settings, but the fps are still very low, and I do like the concept and atmosphere of the game.
DarkStarSword Jan 6 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by Leon:
Exactly, I can just play it on my pc on minimal settings, but the fps are still very low, and I do like the concept and atmosphere of the game.

You can use Miasmod to edit some of the hidden configuration options that aren't available in the menu, and might be able to squeeze a few extra fps out of it:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/223510/discussions/0/630800445647188169/

Click "Open saves.dat..." then expand "renderer" and "current" and you can try tweaking the various settings under there. I can't give you specific advice on what will improve your fps since my gaming rig has no problem running it on max settings with nVidia 3D Vision, and I was surprised to discover that even my Fiancé's Mac Air (mid 2013 model) runs it quite well (albeit at lower settings).

It's probably a good idea to note what the values you change were originally because although Miasmod does create backups of the saves.dat file, the settings & saved games are both in the same file - so you won't want to restore a backup if you have played the game and made any progress since then.

Also - one point of warning, the current version of Miasmod doesn't warn you if the saves.dat file has been updated by Miasmata before saving it, so I would suggest closing Miasmod (or at least saves.dat) while running Miasmata (it does make backups and won't write saves.dat unless you ask it too, but it's nicer to avoid getting into that situation in the first place).



The things I would try experimenting with (keeping in mind that I haven't tried any of these myself) are:

- renderer.current.models.detail_dist - lowering this closer to zero may help. For reference, 1.0 is "high" in the in-game settings menu.

- renderer.current.shadows.resolution - This should be a power of 2 (..., 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, ...). Lower values may speed things up.

- renderer.enable_reflection - not sure what values are what - it seems to be set to 2 on my game, I'm guessing 0 would make the water look terrible by disabling reflections but it may help your framerate.

- renderer.current.WATER.enable_refraction = 0

- renderer.current.WATER.real_time_reflection = 0

- renderer.current.WATER.real_time = 0

- renderer.current.SKY.* - Looks like all these should also be powers of 2 as well - choose out of the same numbers as the shadows resolution.

I think most of the other options are exposed through the in-game settings which I assume you have already tweaked.


If you want to try digging a bit deeper, you can also try editing the game's environment file (click "open local environment..." in Miasmod). There are a bunch of extra advanced options under "render" and "shader_consts" in there, though it seems like they are more likely to just change how the game appears (like making the sun dimmer. Or making the clouds green and the ocean yellow, or making the starfield bright enough to see in the daytime ;), rather than helping framerate. There might be a few things worth trying though - like maybe render.shadows.ranges (no idea what it does, just sounds promising).

Good luck, and if you do manage to find something that improves your framerate please report back so others can learn from it!
Dr. Aki Ross Jan 7 @ 3:04am 
Originally posted by DarkStarSword:
Originally posted by Leon:
Exactly, I can just play it on my pc on minimal settings, but the fps are still very low, and I do like the concept and atmosphere of the game.

You can use Miasmod to edit some of the hidden configuration options that aren't available in the menu, and might be able to squeeze a few extra fps out of it:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/223510/discussions/0/630800445647188169/

Click "Open saves.dat..." then expand "renderer" and "current" and you can try tweaking the various settings under there. I can't give you specific advice on what will improve your fps since my gaming rig has no problem running it on max settings with nVidia 3D Vision, and I was surprised to discover that even my Fiancé's Mac Air (mid 2013 model) runs it quite well (albeit at lower settings).

It's probably a good idea to note what the values you change were originally because although Miasmod does create backups of the saves.dat file, the settings & saved games are both in the same file - so you won't want to restore a backup if you have played the game and made any progress since then.

Also - one point of warning, the current version of Miasmod doesn't warn you if the saves.dat file has been updated by Miasmata before saving it, so I would suggest closing Miasmod (or at least saves.dat) while running Miasmata (it does make backups and won't write saves.dat unless you ask it too, but it's nicer to avoid getting into that situation in the first place).



The things I would try experimenting with (keeping in mind that I haven't tried any of these myself) are:

- renderer.current.models.detail_dist - lowering this closer to zero may help. For reference, 1.0 is "high" in the in-game settings menu.

- renderer.current.shadows.resolution - This should be a power of 2 (..., 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, ...). Lower values may speed things up.

- renderer.enable_reflection - not sure what values are what - it seems to be set to 2 on my game, I'm guessing 0 would make the water look terrible by disabling reflections but it may help your framerate.

- renderer.current.WATER.enable_refraction = 0

- renderer.current.WATER.real_time_reflection = 0

- renderer.current.WATER.real_time = 0

- renderer.current.SKY.* - Looks like all these should also be powers of 2 as well - choose out of the same numbers as the shadows resolution.

I think most of the other options are exposed through the in-game settings which I assume you have already tweaked.


If you want to try digging a bit deeper, you can also try editing the game's environment file (click "open local environment..." in Miasmod). There are a bunch of extra advanced options under "render" and "shader_consts" in there, though it seems like they are more likely to just change how the game appears (like making the sun dimmer. Or making the clouds green and the ocean yellow, or making the starfield bright enough to see in the daytime ;), rather than helping framerate. There might be a few things worth trying though - like maybe render.shadows.ranges (no idea what it does, just sounds promising).

Good luck, and if you do manage to find something that improves your framerate please report back so others can learn from it!


Thanks a tonne!
Leon Jan 10 @ 7:33am 
Thanks!

Originally posted by DarkStarSword:
Originally posted by Leon:
Exactly, I can just play it on my pc on minimal settings, but the fps are still very low, and I do like the concept and atmosphere of the game.

You can use Miasmod to edit some of the hidden configuration options that aren't available in the menu, and might be able to squeeze a few extra fps out of it:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/223510/discussions/0/630800445647188169/

Click "Open saves.dat..." then expand "renderer" and "current" and you can try tweaking the various settings under there. I can't give you specific advice on what will improve your fps since my gaming rig has no problem running it on max settings with nVidia 3D Vision, and I was surprised to discover that even my Fiancé's Mac Air (mid 2013 model) runs it quite well (albeit at lower settings).

It's probably a good idea to note what the values you change were originally because although Miasmod does create backups of the saves.dat file, the settings & saved games are both in the same file - so you won't want to restore a backup if you have played the game and made any progress since then.

Also - one point of warning, the current version of Miasmod doesn't warn you if the saves.dat file has been updated by Miasmata before saving it, so I would suggest closing Miasmod (or at least saves.dat) while running Miasmata (it does make backups and won't write saves.dat unless you ask it too, but it's nicer to avoid getting into that situation in the first place).



The things I would try experimenting with (keeping in mind that I haven't tried any of these myself) are:

- renderer.current.models.detail_dist - lowering this closer to zero may help. For reference, 1.0 is "high" in the in-game settings menu.

- renderer.current.shadows.resolution - This should be a power of 2 (..., 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, ...). Lower values may speed things up.

- renderer.enable_reflection - not sure what values are what - it seems to be set to 2 on my game, I'm guessing 0 would make the water look terrible by disabling reflections but it may help your framerate.

- renderer.current.WATER.enable_refraction = 0

- renderer.current.WATER.real_time_reflection = 0

- renderer.current.WATER.real_time = 0

- renderer.current.SKY.* - Looks like all these should also be powers of 2 as well - choose out of the same numbers as the shadows resolution.

I think most of the other options are exposed through the in-game settings which I assume you have already tweaked.


If you want to try digging a bit deeper, you can also try editing the game's environment file (click "open local environment..." in Miasmod). There are a bunch of extra advanced options under "render" and "shader_consts" in there, though it seems like they are more likely to just change how the game appears (like making the sun dimmer. Or making the clouds green and the ocean yellow, or making the starfield bright enough to see in the daytime ;), rather than helping framerate. There might be a few things worth trying though - like maybe render.shadows.ranges (no idea what it does, just sounds promising).

Good luck, and if you do manage to find something that improves your framerate please report back so others can learn from it!
Chow Da Jan 12 @ 11:46am 
I was thinking of buying the game but I'm glad I looked at the forum first. If the devs are no longer around I don't think I'll bother. Pretty low of them to just vanish.
DarkStarSword Jan 12 @ 6:26pm 
Originally posted by Chow Da:
I was thinking of buying the game but I'm glad I looked at the forum first. If the devs are no longer around I don't think I'll bother. Pretty low of them to just vanish.
Don't be put off too much - the game is perfectly playable in it's current state. There are some bugs left, but none of them are game breaking (IMO the most annoying one that you will run into is the input locking up if you close the map too quickly - opening and closing the journal fixes that).

There is also a community effort to fix some of the remaining bugs. See this thread for details:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/223510/discussions/0/648812916771880184/

Do make sure your GPU meets the recommended requirements - most people having issues are trying to play on below spec cards. Mind you, I was recently surprised to discover that the game plays perfectly well on a mid-2013 Macbook Air (Intel HD 5000 graphics) running Windows 7 - only thing that didn't render were the God rays.
simplen00b Jan 13 @ 6:01am 
Originally posted by DarkStarSword:
Don't be put off too much - the game is perfectly playable in it's current state.
Seconded. If your system is up to spec but you're still not sure, wait for it to come up on sale - both Steam and GOG had it cut-price recently, so it'll probably come round again. If you like games that (i) involve exploration, and (ii) reward care and patience, you really do need to try it.
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