Regergek Dec 28, 2012 @ 7:26am
HAS DRM DON'T BUY
Almost bought this, until a friend told me about it.
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Cyrus Dec 28, 2012 @ 7:30am 
oh my god,you have to be online to play?that's horrible
ChunkyMonkey Dec 28, 2012 @ 7:36am 
Why would everybody be opposed to this? Most of us who pay for internet have constant connection and don't mind. I am one thos people.
Can you guys describe few situations in which DRM is inconvenient/bad?
Goronmon Dec 28, 2012 @ 7:41am 
DRM that requires an online connection also requires a service running to verify that connection. When the company decides it's no longer profitable, they shutdown that service and the game you purchased is no longer playable.
Cyrus Dec 28, 2012 @ 7:46am 
as far as I know you only need to be online while you log in,than you can go offline,the single player part runs entirely on your machine,not like Diablo3 where everything goes through the blizzards servers /that's why there will never be a perfectly working hacked version of D3/ I'm sure they can patch out the "need-to-login" portion of the game in a moment if they ever go out of business
Axe Dec 28, 2012 @ 7:51am 
Originally posted by Yura Welcome:
Why would everybody be opposed to this? Most of us who pay for internet have constant connection and don't mind. I am one thos people.
Can you guys describe few situations in which DRM is inconvenient/bad?

Read other posts before asking questions about why this is bad. There are many out there.

As for 'most' having permanent connectioncs without having caps, limitations and interruptions to their service, that may well be but is it fair that only the majority are able to play because they are the ones with better services and stuff the others?

Bit of 'I'm alright Jack' going on there as bloody usual with most people who are simply unable to see either the bigger picture or how any actions now, will affect actions taken in the future. Shortsighted selfish and ignorance all in one package. Congrats on that one.
kaay Dec 28, 2012 @ 8:14am 
Originally posted by Yura Welcome:
Why would everybody be opposed to this? Most of us who pay for internet have constant connection and don't mind. I am one thos people.
Can you guys describe few situations in which DRM is inconvenient/bad?

Well, imagine every game decided to do this, you would need to register and get a username and password for every game, not to mention unable to play anything when your connection is down (it does happen), also the frustration with login servers not working for whatever reason (that does happen too), also the question about what happens if the company decides to close.

Last but not least, for many people its a matter of principle, basically a company decides that implementing a DRM thats inconvenient and potentially frustrating for their customers is ok and justified because it protects against piracy.
In reality this (piracy) is mostly large corporation paranoia and the existence of services like GoG and the success of games like Witcher and Divine Divinity 2 (which removed drm) proves that, and also proves that things can be done differently.
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Regergek Dec 28, 2012 @ 8:23am 
Originally posted by Cyrus:
as far as I know you only need to be online while you log in,than you can go offline,the single player part runs entirely on your machine,not like Diablo3 where everything goes through the blizzards servers /that's why there will never be a perfectly working hacked version of D3/ I'm sure they can patch out the "need-to-login" portion of the game in a moment if they ever go out of business
D3 got hacked so fast even the beta was piratable
Regergek Dec 28, 2012 @ 8:23am 
So all it does is hurt the customer that actually pay.
kaay Dec 28, 2012 @ 8:28am 
Originally posted by Axe:
Originally posted by Yura Welcome:
Why would everybody be opposed to this? Most of us who pay for internet have constant connection and don't mind. I am one thos people.
Can you guys describe few situations in which DRM is inconvenient/bad?

Read other posts before asking questions about why this is bad. There are many out there.

As for 'most' having permanent connectioncs without having caps, limitations and interruptions to their service, that may well be but is it fair that only the majority are able to play because they are the ones with better services and stuff the others?

Bit of 'I'm alright Jack' going on there as bloody usual with most people who are simply unable to see either the bigger picture or how any actions now, will affect actions taken in the future. Shortsighted selfish and ignorance all in one package. Congrats on that one.

I dont think this guy deserved your insults, he asked an honest question.
Even if you feel strongly about the DRM issue thats not a reason to start flaming.
Besides, DRM is pushed by large corporations like EA, Microsoft and Ubisoft who have the marketing muscle to push it, we cant do much about it just lke we cant do anything about the consolisation of PC gaming.
Not buying some small PC title because it has DRM wont really change much, a storm in a glass of water if you ask me.
HunterZ Dec 28, 2012 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by Goronmon:
DRM that requires an online connection also requires a service running to verify that connection. When the company decides it's no longer profitable, they shutdown that service and the game you purchased is no longer playable.
This, plus I was without Internet for a few days while out of town a week ago. Steam allowed me to run in offline mode and still access my installed Steam games, but I never would have been able to play a game like Miner Wars.
Rhenthyl Dec 28, 2012 @ 8:40am 
While on the one hand it's a valid critercism, on the other hand i'm getting sick of seeing 30 posts in the same damn forum complaining about the same thing. All these whining threads should be merged into one big one, just to tidy the place up a bit
Tabrias Dec 28, 2012 @ 8:40am 
Really annoyed I bought this on the Flash sale before I noticed the DRM. Wish steam gave refunds in the US.
Cyrus Dec 28, 2012 @ 8:42am 
Originally posted by Regergek:
Originally posted by Cyrus:
as far as I know you only need to be online while you log in,than you can go offline,the single player part runs entirely on your machine,not like Diablo3 where everything goes through the blizzards servers /that's why there will never be a perfectly working hacked version of D3/ I'm sure they can patch out the "need-to-login" portion of the game in a moment if they ever go out of business
D3 got hacked so fast even the beta was piratable

yeah you could explore the first half of act1 and that was all,you couldn't do ♥♥♥♥,there were no scripts or anything,I'd rather call it a rip than a crack
Axe Dec 28, 2012 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by kaay:
I dont think this guy deserved your insults, he asked an honest question.
Even if you feel strongly about the DRM issue thats not a reason to start flaming.
Besides, DRM is pushed by large corporations like EA, Microsoft and Ubisoft who have the marketing muscle to push it, we cant do much about it just lke we cant do anything about the consolisation of PC gaming.
Not buying some small PC title because it has DRM wont really change much, a storm in a glass of water if you ask me.

Really Oh. Ahhh sorry am I supposed to care what you think? Sorry pal but I don't, OK?

If you don't think customers can change the views/path of some of the devs and those in the games industries through action, you must me naive at best.
Rhenthyl Dec 28, 2012 @ 9:00am 
Originally posted by Axe:
Originally posted by kaay:
I dont think this guy deserved your insults, he asked an honest question.
Even if you feel strongly about the DRM issue thats not a reason to start flaming.
Besides, DRM is pushed by large corporations like EA, Microsoft and Ubisoft who have the marketing muscle to push it, we cant do much about it just lke we cant do anything about the consolisation of PC gaming.
Not buying some small PC title because it has DRM wont really change much, a storm in a glass of water if you ask me.

Really Oh. Ahhh sorry am I supposed to care what you think? Sorry pal but I don't, OK?

If you don't think customers can change the views/path of some of the devs and those in the games industries through action, you must me naive at best.

You knoiw, more people would agree with you if you weren't so obnoxious about it. Everyone hates the arrogant prig on a soapbox even if he's right. but everyone likes the calm and collected guy whose polite and courteous, even if he's wrong.

Manners go a long way, especially on the internet
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