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Eldaron Feb 27, 2013 @ 8:53am
So what makes this game an RPG?
Is every game that has any progression an rpg now?
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Rejera Feb 27, 2013 @ 9:33am 
i would consider it an action RPG. you have spells and you can custimize your character's stats. you level up. you gain new abilities by leveling up. chose what area (armor, mana, attack, for example)
TapSkill Feb 28, 2013 @ 12:03am 
You could consider it a third-person shooter with slight RPG elements, but it isn't an RPG in my book until it has a playable story or at least extensive customization of stats and some lore. Even MMORPGs have story missions and lore. Forge is more of a deathmatch game. Not much else to it. If you want more of an RPG experience, I recommend either Gothic or Arx Fatalis. Of course, those are single-player.
Rejera Feb 28, 2013 @ 8:41am 
Forge does have extensive customization of stats, and as for the story part, it's a matter of oppinion. I've played amazing RPG games and it doens't have too much of a story, yet i would still consider it an RPG.
generatedname Feb 28, 2013 @ 9:16am 
forge takes familiar RPG archetypes and throws them into a non grindy pvp arena.

its similar to calling Magicka an RPG
Rejera Feb 28, 2013 @ 12:46pm 
what about magicka is an RPG? you can't level up or do really anything that would make it an RPG. Forge does have RPG elements. calling it JUST an RPG would be wrong but it's way more of an RPG than Magicka. (i've played both games by the way)
Rejera Feb 28, 2013 @ 12:46pm 
Magicka seems to be more of an adventure game. at least to me.
generatedname Feb 28, 2013 @ 2:21pm 
Originally posted by Rejera:
what about magicka is an RPG? you can't level up or do really anything that would make it an RPG. Forge does have RPG elements. calling it JUST an RPG would be wrong but it's way more of an RPG than Magicka. (i've played both games by the way)

depends on what mood you are in and how stubborn you want to be about what makes a game an RPG really...
TapSkill Feb 28, 2013 @ 2:34pm 
Originally posted by Rejera:
Forge does have extensive customization of stats, and as for the story part, it's a matter of oppinion. I've played amazing RPG games and it doens't have too much of a story, yet i would still consider it an RPG.
Forge has very little customization at all. You have to "level up" (spend exp points) to to get a perk. The perk is arguably dull most of the time, making little difference to the gameplay experience. Every once in a while, you get a perk that lets you swap a stat point. The problem here is it is only a single stat point and has to come from another stat. Basically, you get weaker in one area to be come stronger in another area, so there's no point in changing stats except to tweak a character for a very specific scenario or skill. At that point, you're not really progressing at all, you're just mastering the gameplay and investing in a specific area of expertise. It is similar to CSGO's choice of weaponry.
Rejera Feb 28, 2013 @ 2:56pm 
true, but it makes it fair. it's how they say that even relatively new players won't get owned if the know how to play. i think it's actually pretty smart. it helps keep it fair while you get to tailor your character to your own playstyle.
Rejera Feb 28, 2013 @ 2:57pm 
@generatedname: Totally agree with you. what is an RPG and what isn't depends on your persomal definition of an RPG.
TapSkill Feb 28, 2013 @ 8:13pm 
Originally posted by Rejera:
@generatedname: Totally agree with you. what is an RPG and what isn't depends on your persomal definition of an RPG.
Same could be said about anything and everything and nothing all at the same time and different times. Everything is relative to the person talking about the subject in question. If you think that's confusing, I agree, but it is also irrelevant, because that's why we have accepted definitions for specific words and terms.

Originally posted by Rejera:
true, but it makes it fair. it's how they say that even relatively new players won't get owned if the know how to play. i think it's actually pretty smart. it helps keep it fair while you get to tailor your character to your own playstyle.
I disagree. It is unfair. New players have to play for a while to get to change their stats to fit a playstyle, and old players have to play more to change the playstyle to something else. We should just be able to change the stats between matches regardless of earned points and perks since you have to subtract points from other stats, anyway.

That said, Forge is fun. I like playing it a little at a time.
Rejera Mar 1, 2013 @ 11:23am 
@tapskill: 1. i meant that there already is a preset definition. Role playing game. but it's pretty broad in terms of deciding what is and what isn't. that is what is cool about video games. just saying it is an RPG doesn't tell you that much. it has the capability to be amazingly different. also, it could be part RPG and part another genere, so i guess calling Forge an RPG is wrong but it does have RPG elements 2. for your second point... well i don't really think that but whatever. it's a new and interesting game mechanic and is bound to have some problems.
Rejera Mar 1, 2013 @ 11:38am 
what i'm trying to say is that the gaming industry has used the term "RPG" for a lot of things. what is normally understood is that any game that you can A. level up and change stats B. get better and better equipment and C. Has some sort of story. now Forge doesn't meet all of those criteria and that is why it isn't a Pure RPG but people still classify games like forge as an RPG and some other genera as well. a lot of games have RPG elements and people call them RPGs. so my statement above wasn't "everything is relative" it's "it has RPG elements but isn't a Pure RPG, so it could go by a lot of names"
TapSkill Mar 1, 2013 @ 5:17pm 
Originally posted by Rejera:
C. Has some sort of story. now Forge doesn't meet all of those criteria and that is why it isn't a Pure RPG
It isn't a RPG at all by that argument. You can't have it both ways.
Rejera Mar 2, 2013 @ 12:50pm 
whatever. it's pointless to argue about this. I'm not changing my mind and you seem bent on proving me wrong. the point is, forge is a great game. that's what's important.
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Date Posted: Feb 27, 2013 @ 8:53am
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