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HollowStrike Feb 3, 2013 @ 7:51am
Wy is the game so dead?
As the title says:
Wy is the game so dead?

We need bots or someting like that
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Most multiplayer based games with no bots die within the 1-2 months of release. I have a few that died but at least 2 of them have bots.
Re' Feb 3, 2013 @ 8:44pm 
Bots are being worked on right now.
Tobbo Feb 3, 2013 @ 9:37pm 
Bots won't save the game. Nobody wants to play against bots. Just ask Nexuiz.
I doubt anything will save this game. I've been 'trying' to like it for a week or two now, off an on.

The main issue, I'm going to say, is that the tutorial is bad. You then have to go in against faceless 'elite' guys who will mob you until death while you try desperately to push buttons and end up with a bunch of random abilities going off in random places or falling off a cliff. You will then die a lot and get -nothing- for time spent playing or damage done, because you spend most of the match getting murdered.

You will then a) put in a huge amount of time to catch up to the neckbeards who actually play this
or
b) stop playing, because there are better pvp/mmo hybrids (At what point is this an MMO anyways?)
Flex Feb 4, 2013 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by F-CORei:
I doubt anything will save this game. I've been 'trying' to like it for a week or two now, off an on.

The main issue, I'm going to say, is that the tutorial is bad. You then have to go in against faceless 'elite' guys who will mob you until death while you try desperately to push buttons and end up with a bunch of random abilities going off in random places or falling off a cliff. You will then die a lot and get -nothing- for time spent playing or damage done, because you spend most of the match getting murdered.

You will then a) put in a huge amount of time to catch up to the neckbeards who actually play this
or
b) stop playing, because there are better pvp/mmo hybrids (At what point is this an MMO anyways?)

Finally someone that understands. I complained about these issues and just got hate back. Completely agree with you tutorial sucks and its a shame you just deploy random abilities cos some of the abilties look pretty good but my hands cant reach keys T & B easily lol
Tokibi Feb 4, 2013 @ 11:08am 
@Flex: Did you ever try to change the keys? Did you even look in the settings?

@Rei: You're really complaining that other players are better than you? Do you do this in other games you're new at, too? Of course button mashing won't help you, like in other PvP games with skills. You have to take 5 mins to read the description of the skills. (Like in other games ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it).

I'm not saying this game is perfect. The tutorial could really be better with bots which are moving or something like that. Also bots could help in the gamemods (but it's difficult to develop a good AI). The HUD is not really good etc. There's much work to do.

My problem with the most hateposts is that either the people turn off their brains and are complaining about ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ things like "this game sucks because I can't reach this and this key" (sorry, Flex, but seriously, man) or they post things like "this game sucks because it's crap" with no explanations why and how the developers could have done it better (on the same time they could have write another tautology like "green is green" as a criticism or somethhing like that).
Last edited by Tokibi; Feb 4, 2013 @ 11:29am
Than4tos Feb 4, 2013 @ 11:17am 
+1 for Tokibi
Flex Feb 4, 2013 @ 2:13pm 
I just think that if you play a game and the controls are all great to play then it makes a real difference in the presentation. If you download an app on your phone and it has crap controls you go oh well that was ♥♥♥♥ delete. I dont have to rebind controls for 99% of games only maybe change something like throw grenade from g to f for instance. But to rebind the whole ability bar from a new game ive just bought and i dont even know what half of the moves do make it so frustrating. Normally you want the moves you use the most, close to you and i dont have the patience to learn this game so that i know which moves i do need close and abilities i can take my time to hit. Its just a first impression
tbrehaut Feb 4, 2013 @ 2:29pm 
Since this key-binding issue comes up so often in posts, perhaps some experienced player could offer a chart of comfortable key assignments for each of the classes. Granted, the key binding process is dead easy, but in-game experience is required for choosing the best assignments. Any takers?
Re' Feb 4, 2013 @ 6:38pm 
Originally posted by tbrehaut:
Since this key-binding issue comes up so often in posts, perhaps some experienced player could offer a chart of comfortable key assignments for each of the classes. Granted, the key binding process is dead easy, but in-game experience is required for choosing the best assignments. Any takers?


Never copy someone else's keybinds. Make your own you feel comfortable with, that really is the only way to do it.

Simply avoid putting too much on your mouse, and keep stuff close to WASD, if you use number keys in Forge you are at a disadvantage. I map all my keys so at all times I can push any combination of WASD.
control-SEVEN Feb 5, 2013 @ 2:23am 
Give Forge some time; it will get better.
Last edited by control-SEVEN; Feb 5, 2013 @ 2:28am
Tokibi Feb 5, 2013 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by Flex:
...i dont have the patience to learn this game so that i know which moves i do need close and abilities i can take my time to hit. Its just a first impression

Now, you are complaining that you have to read the description of the skills so you can know what to use. Nice!
And you still didn't look at the settings. Your half keyboard is free to change the keybindings.
Last edited by Tokibi; Feb 5, 2013 @ 11:39am
The problem is that the game doesn't ease you into it. It just says heres a tutorial, heres the game bye... Then your left trying to understand the mechanics, but honestly theres not enough to practice with. There needs to be a noob league, because honestly the people who know what their doing are the ones that push us out. I tryed to like this game but honestly it gave me very little to work with.

I have better games to play like Dark Souls, Awesomenauts ( Though that has its own problems) and even Garry's Mod. There is not enough in this game to atract new players, atleast not yet.
Flex Feb 7, 2013 @ 5:33am 
Thanks pahzik i just checked out the link and im really impressed with all the improvements they are making to this game. Im glad they are listening to the players are doing some really good stuff about it!
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