[CotF] KKiONI 13 sep, 2013 @ 12:12pm
Quick question about Nvidia Drivers and Bumblebee
This is something I have so far had no luck getting to work. My attempts have either led to the drivers not functioning as intended or rendered the operating system inoperable.
I'll hold off on the details for now as I am wondering if it may be the nature of this installation. That is, the way I installed Ubuntu on my machine was through wubi.exe. This is making me wonder if that may be affecting the installation and usage.

Can anyone shine some light on this?
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Apocryphus 13 sep, 2013 @ 12:30pm 
optirun glxspheres
[CotF] KKiONI 13 sep, 2013 @ 1:29pm 
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optirun glxspheres
I recall running that command already last time I tried. I cannot remember what it exactly said, but I think it said something along the lines of something was not on.

I'm just going to back things up a bit. I deleted my previous install and I now have a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04 using wubi. It's all up to date and has the Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates) (version 319-updates) installed. However, the System Details are still listing it as "unknown". Is this normal or have I hit a snag?
Apocryphus 13 sep, 2013 @ 2:17pm 
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optirun glxspheres
I recall running that command already last time I tried. I cannot remember what it exactly said, but I think it said something along the lines of something was not on.

I'm just going to back things up a bit. I deleted my previous install and I now have a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04 using wubi. It's all up to date and has the Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates) (version 319-updates) installed. However, the System Details are still listing it as "unknown". Is this normal or have I hit a snag?

Don't use Wubi because it installs a virtual instance of Ubuntu. If you want to use Ubuntu for real, either dual boot or replace that abomination called Windows from the ground up.
[CotF] KKiONI 13 sep, 2013 @ 2:26pm 
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I recall running that command already last time I tried. I cannot remember what it exactly said, but I think it said something along the lines of something was not on.

I'm just going to back things up a bit. I deleted my previous install and I now have a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04 using wubi. It's all up to date and has the Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates) (version 319-updates) installed. However, the System Details are still listing it as "unknown". Is this normal or have I hit a snag?

Don't use Wubi because it installs a virtual instance of Ubuntu. If you want to use Ubuntu for real, either dual boot or replace that abomination called Windows from the ground up.
That was what I was looking for. So with it being a virtual instance, I am guessing it doesn't have the same sort of access to hardware as a proper installation would?

Anyhow, thanks for the info. My laptop fortunately came with a HDD with two partitions, so I may just try dual-booting when I get a chance. Thanks again.
Apocryphus 13 sep, 2013 @ 2:42pm 
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Don't use Wubi because it installs a virtual instance of Ubuntu. If you want to use Ubuntu for real, either dual boot or replace that abomination called Windows from the ground up.
That was what I was looking for. So with it being a virtual instance, I am guessing it doesn't have the same sort of access to hardware as a proper installation would?

Anyhow, thanks for the info. My laptop fortunately came with a HDD with two partitions, so I may just try dual-booting when I get a chance. Thanks again.

You mean two hard drives, right? If you plan on keeping Windows, it's a matter of knowing which hard drive to reformat for use in Linux. Good luck.
[CotF] KKiONI 13 sep, 2013 @ 3:24pm 
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That was what I was looking for. So with it being a virtual instance, I am guessing it doesn't have the same sort of access to hardware as a proper installation would?

Anyhow, thanks for the info. My laptop fortunately came with a HDD with two partitions, so I may just try dual-booting when I get a chance. Thanks again.

You mean two hard drives, right? If you plan on keeping Windows, it's a matter of knowing which hard drive to reformat for use in Linux. Good luck.
No, it's a single hard drive with two partitions (with a hidden third one for Windows recovery, I believe). Probably not the best way of dual-booting, but it's much more feasible than buying a separate drive.
Apocryphus 13 sep, 2013 @ 6:22pm 
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You mean two hard drives, right? If you plan on keeping Windows, it's a matter of knowing which hard drive to reformat for use in Linux. Good luck.
No, it's a single hard drive with two partitions (with a hidden third one for Windows recovery, I believe). Probably not the best way of dual-booting, but it's much more feasible than buying a separate drive.

Ah, that's a bit tricky. Look up dual-booting if you want to follow that path; otherwise replace Windows with Linux and enter the new world.
vargablood 17 sep, 2013 @ 3:33am 
http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Baustelle/Nvidia_319.12/Optimus

what windows you use ? there some special things combined to windows 8 and uefi. should only be done if you know what and how to do !!! dualbooting with other windows is ways easier at the moment.
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Apocryphus 17 sep, 2013 @ 6:54am 
Yes, if you have Windows 8 pre-installed then you have to enable Legacy BIOS and disable Secure Boot. I cbb with all this UEFI stuff since it's not mainstream yet, so you're better off sticking with the stuff that works.
[CotF] KKiONI 17 sep, 2013 @ 1:44pm 
No, no, I don't have Windows 8 installed, thankfully (I made sure to even get my laptop before they started bundling it with the OS). As for the dual-booting business, I've decided to hold off till I get myself a proper desktop so I can go with that on there instead. It's mix of factors including it'll be easier/more efficient that way and my level of satisfaction with Nvidia's support for optimus setups (Nvidia itself, not Bumblebee).

Edit: I had some free time today and gave Bumblebee with wubi one more try. Nvidia driver installed fine and was recognized just fine. Installed Bumblebee a bit differently this time and it did the same thing happened (which I can now detail). Essentially on reboot it falls back onto the default generic driver and informs me it could not detect the card.
Oddly enough, the generic driver has better workspace performance than the official Nvidia one did. I don't get the choppiness and there is hardly any screen tearing like what I was experiencing before. Odd, but definitely a win.
Senast ändrad av [CotF] KKiONI; 17 sep, 2013 @ 4:17pm
Apocryphus 19 sep, 2013 @ 3:51am 
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No, no, I don't have Windows 8 installed, thankfully (I made sure to even get my laptop before they started bundling it with the OS). As for the dual-booting business, I've decided to hold off till I get myself a proper desktop so I can go with that on there instead. It's mix of factors including it'll be easier/more efficient that way and my level of satisfaction with Nvidia's support for optimus setups (Nvidia itself, not Bumblebee).

Edit: I had some free time today and gave Bumblebee with wubi one more try. Nvidia driver installed fine and was recognized just fine. Installed Bumblebee a bit differently this time and it did the same thing happened (which I can now detail). Essentially on reboot it falls back onto the default generic driver and informs me it could not detect the card.
Oddly enough, the generic driver has better workspace performance than the official Nvidia one did. I don't get the choppiness and there is hardly any screen tearing like what I was experiencing before. Odd, but definitely a win.

Bumblebee doesn't make your Nvidia card the dominant one in a system; your intel card is required for power conservation while the former is required for performance; hence Nvidia OPTIMUS. You need to understand that you have to manually order Bumblebee to use your nvidia card, just like you would on Windows. Didn't you know that?
[CotF] KKiONI 19 sep, 2013 @ 12:58pm 
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No, no, I don't have Windows 8 installed, thankfully (I made sure to even get my laptop before they started bundling it with the OS). As for the dual-booting business, I've decided to hold off till I get myself a proper desktop so I can go with that on there instead. It's mix of factors including it'll be easier/more efficient that way and my level of satisfaction with Nvidia's support for optimus setups (Nvidia itself, not Bumblebee).

Edit: I had some free time today and gave Bumblebee with wubi one more try. Nvidia driver installed fine and was recognized just fine. Installed Bumblebee a bit differently this time and it did the same thing happened (which I can now detail). Essentially on reboot it falls back onto the default generic driver and informs me it could not detect the card.
Oddly enough, the generic driver has better workspace performance than the official Nvidia one did. I don't get the choppiness and there is hardly any screen tearing like what I was experiencing before. Odd, but definitely a win.

Bumblebee doesn't make your Nvidia card the dominant one in a system; your intel card is required for power conservation while the former is required for performance; hence Nvidia OPTIMUS. You need to understand that you have to manually order Bumblebee to use your nvidia card, just like you would on Windows. Didn't you know that?
I am fully aware of what Optimus does. I have a clear idea of its functionality and purpose. For me to pose this question of getting the feature running on Linux would seem silly if I had no idea what it did.


Anyhow, I believe you misread my post. I must clarify that I only got the Nvidia driver working with my setup (that being Ubuntu installed with wubi). This particular driver was grabbed from Additional Drivers in System Settings. Concerning Bumblebee, I have still not been able to get a successful install of it on my machine after mutliple attempts at multiple methods. I am lead to think that it will not work with my kind of installation.

So as it stood (before I fell back to the default driver), the system was running with the dedicated Nvidia GPU with the Nvidia drivers, only. I read an article from several months back that Nvidia's beta drivers for 319 are rolling out initial optimus support, but still lacks GPU switching functionality. I'm trying to find some more detailed and recent information on this update so I can perhaps try looking into it.
Senast ändrad av [CotF] KKiONI; 19 sep, 2013 @ 12:59pm
Apocryphus 19 sep, 2013 @ 1:48pm 
Honestly, you're better off using an actual installation of Linux, rather than Wubi which simply is a virtualisation of Ubuntu. Go for a dual boot, and then test the results; you won't know for certain until you actually experience Linux running for real. Even more so, how are you installing Bumblebee?
[CotF] KKiONI 19 sep, 2013 @ 2:12pm 
I do plan on getting a more suitable Ubuntu installation for sure. I just need to find a good day where my university classes die down a bit so I can back up data and prepare a partition.

As for the Bumblebee installtion, two of the methods I tried were found here on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Installation
I tried the Basic followed by the Advanced setup. Both ended up with me having to roll back the driver to default due to it not being able to find the hardware.
Apocryphus 19 sep, 2013 @ 2:23pm 
Ah, so that's the problem: Bumblebee can't find your Nvdia card. You're using the right method, but you really need to do this on a real Ubuntu/Linux installation. Uni is no excuse; if I can do it, so can you. :-)
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