Jazz Jul 11, 2013 @ 5:46pm
AMD + Steam + Linux = The worst fustercluck in the history of all things.
Just needing to vent and maybe see if someone has a fix for my problem that no one else has thought of.

I have the following:

Intel i7 3.2Ghz
12GB RAM
AMD Radeon HD5870 Graphics (Latest Catalyst 13.4)
Running Ubuntu Linux x64.

All my games (TF2, Portal, HL2, etc) are getting about half a frame a second. That's right, less than 1FPS. If I turn off anti-aliasing, they are 'almost' playable, but stutter (and of course look like ♥♥♥♥). I can also turn on 16xAA and get about one frame a minute (not joking).

Dual boot into Windows and I can play the exact same games without a problem, so it's definitely not hardware.

I'm kinda disappointed with the current state of Linux gaming. I was really excited when I heard Steam was coming to linux. As yet I still have not played a single Linux game on Steam.

Anyone know any tricks to make this work? Next stop will be switching to NVidia when I'm due to upgrade the GFX card. Will that make things any better though?
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gutigen o) Jul 11, 2013 @ 6:40pm 
Nvidia is the only sane solution for Linux gaming, period. AMD doesn't give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about Linux and their drivers are plain terrible, so all your problems with gaming on Linux are their fault, sorry :/ Nvidia on the other hand is updating their drivers extremly fast and is working closely with Canonical and Valve to bring all functionalities and performance from Windows to Linux (and beyond... opengl is a lot faster then directx while having all shiny features). Just take a look at Steam for Linux forums, majority of problems come from AMD users while those who have Nvidia just enjoy their games (example: I got better TF2 performance under Ubuntu then Windows 8 at same machine, same settings).

EDIT: you may want to turn off Vsync in AMD Catalyst settings and in your games if you haven't done it already.
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thedarknite Jul 11, 2013 @ 8:17pm 
Have you tried the open source Radeon driver?
John Noob doesn´t play ranked Jul 12, 2013 @ 2:09am 
i7 & 12GB RAM needs best GPU to be a monster-PC. Nvidia works better with Linux. Since I use my HD4330 on my laptop, always crying for a Nvidia like my past 9800GT... :D
John Noob doesn´t play ranked Jul 12, 2013 @ 2:11am 
First, you will have to try drivers. Look for it at AMD graphics subforum, maybe you can find someone with your graphic card.
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Jazz Jul 12, 2013 @ 5:20pm 
Originally posted by gutigen o):
Nvidia is the only sane solution for Linux gaming, period. AMD doesn't give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about Linux and their drivers are plain terrible, so all your problems with gaming on Linux are their fault, sorry :/ Nvidia on the other hand is updating their drivers extremly fast and is working closely with Canonical and Valve to bring all functionalities and performance from Windows to Linux (and beyond... opengl is a lot faster then directx while having all shiny features). Just take a look at Steam for Linux forums, majority of problems come from AMD users while those who have Nvidia just enjoy their games (example: I got better TF2 performance under Ubuntu then Windows 8 at same machine, same settings).

EDIT: you may want to turn off Vsync in AMD Catalyst settings and in your games if you haven't done it already.

Thanks. Kinda the reply I was expecting/hoping for. Seems like the switch to Nvidia is the way to go. I'll try the Vsync thing. Also looking at the edgers PPA someone else mentioned. Not expecting too much though, but we'll see.

Yeah, I always knew it would be an AMD issue. I just can't believe that it's so bad. Do AMD not test these things before they release them? I'm a developer myself and if I released software that performed at about 1% of it's required capacity my ♥♥♥ would get fired.
Jazz Jul 12, 2013 @ 5:21pm 
@ss is a swear word? C'mon Valve. Sheeesh... :(
Jazz Jul 13, 2013 @ 4:09am 
Interesting. I probably should have mentioned I have a multi-monitor setup. I turned over my other two displays in the cataylist control center and suddenly everything is super awesome. Probably should have occurred to me to try it earlier but mult-monitor is "just how it is" for me under linux and has been for years.

AMD suk teh wang on the multi-monitor support, it would seem.
LOLCAT Jul 16, 2013 @ 3:36am 
AMD drivers are bad but nearly not as bad. The OP has some issue other than driver performance.
gutigen o) Jul 16, 2013 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by Jazz:
Yeah, I always knew it would be an AMD issue. I just can't believe that it's so bad. Do AMD not test these things before they release them? I'm a developer myself and if I released software that performed at about 1% of it's required capacity my ♥♥♥ would get fired.

Both new consoles PS4 and Xbone have AMD GPUs which may be the reason why AMD has not been focusing on anything new like Linux gaming (before Steam for Linux there was no reason tbh).
Sirik Jul 18, 2013 @ 5:05am 
I have an Intel i7 and 14GB ram in my pc. Running AMD6570 with the latest stable 13.4 drivers, Ubuntu 64-bit version, with 2 monitors (one being the TV). And i dont get any issues that make games unplayable so far. Especially the Valve games, which I played through without issue as soon as they were released on beta.
Zyro Jul 18, 2013 @ 6:23am 
Originally posted by Jazz:
Interesting. I probably should have mentioned I have a multi-monitor setup. I turned over my other two displays in the cataylist control center and suddenly everything is super awesome. Probably should have occurred to me to try it earlier but mult-monitor is "just how it is" for me under linux and has been for years.

AMD suk teh wang on the multi-monitor support, it would seem.

You could change the thread title...
worzel910 Jul 18, 2013 @ 3:08pm 
Originally posted by Zyro:
Originally posted by Jazz:
Interesting. I probably should have mentioned I have a multi-monitor setup. I turned over my other two displays in the cataylist control center and suddenly everything is super awesome. Probably should have occurred to me to try it earlier but mult-monitor is "just how it is" for me under linux and has been for years.

AMD suk teh wang on the multi-monitor support, it would seem.

You could change the thread title...

Might be an idea!

As someone who is using an HD5870 also I have had no problems.

However, all the ones that seem to be having problems are running *buntu of some sort.
mmmm, a pattern is emerging .....
Personaly running Mageia 3 with only the flash bug.(Flash needs to die a death)
All games run fine.

Jazz Jul 19, 2013 @ 5:21pm 
Originally posted by Zyro:
You could change the thread title...

Umm.. No.. It really is a bit of a frack up. Linux has been doing multi-monitor for a million years so these things should be handled by now.
岩倉玲音 Jul 20, 2013 @ 5:06am 
I've got the same problem with poor AMD Linux support. I've already decided that my next card will be an nVidia because of this.
It's a real shame to see Valve to exceed all expectations just to be let down by video drivers they don't have control over, but the video card manufacturers can't ignore us for much longer.
Sepius Jul 20, 2013 @ 8:34pm 
My $0.02
I run Kubuntu 12.04 and ATI HD 6700 (MSI Frozr II). Never had an issue with the propriety drivers. Ubtuntu repo's currently have 12.1, these are no good for Steam. I use Kubuntu as I like separate desktops on each monitor (I have 2).
I run TF2 with no issue. Cannot test Portal as it seems to have been taken off the Linux store ??.
I moved to ATI about 8 Years ago as nVidia where totally hopeless with their drivers, and I have never had an issue since, never. I always test the open drivers first then move to the propriety, as they are needed for the Wine games I play, The Sims 3, Total War, Civ IV etc.
I also run AMD cpu's, have done since the first 64bit many years ago and also the permanent switch to Linux as Windows lagged behind for to long imho to release a 64bit OS.
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