adewolf11 Oct 27, 2012 @ 7:49am
Nvidia optimus
While the support for this in something other than Windows is so-so (Bumblebee for Linux, non-existant in OSX) I hear that someone in Nvidia is working on a solution. Can someone list current laptops with Nvidia 6xxx series video chips without Optimus (i.e. no Intel 3000/4000 GPUs).
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NerfSuperBall Oct 27, 2012 @ 12:35pm 
Asus ROG g55 and g75 laptops use just the discrete cards installed
[LINUX] Iperpido Oct 27, 2012 @ 9:04pm 
Well... that's just not a problem.

All the native Linux games i tried out (Amnesia, Rochard, Psychonauts and so on...) are running fine using bumblebee, like the windows version of steam trought wine and most windows games.

So... i'm pretty sure that Steam for linux and his games will run without any problem on Nvidia Optimus cards.
cybik Oct 28, 2012 @ 10:05am 
The bumblebee/optirun method works even on Gentoo.
PurpleSky Oct 29, 2012 @ 1:21pm 
Ubuntu with Geforce GT 540M (Optimus) running Amnesia very smoothly.

Also, It was really easy to install Bumblebee. I think Optimus won't be an issue.
ParallaxMurderer Nov 7, 2012 @ 3:54pm 
Bumblebee works great. It's rather hilarious that nVidia has yet to offer any official support, and they ought to be very embarrassed.
nieknooijens Nov 8, 2012 @ 4:18am 
Originally posted by Gordon:
Bumblebee works great. It's rather hilarious that nVidia has yet to offer any official support, and they ought to be very embarrassed.

bumblebee isn't the offloading-stuff Nvidia initially designed, it's just an on/off switch for your secondary GPU, the pc should automatically switch to the NVidia-GPU when some openGL stuff is called, they're working on that but in the meantime bumblebee will do fine....
Fantu Nov 8, 2012 @ 4:25am 
I try run steam with optirun, seem work perfect. also big picture mode, after I try to start Trine 2, open setting windows but starting game not work, probably trying to use intel but fails, someone know if must do differente thing for game working with optirun?
p4dev Nov 22, 2012 @ 4:50am 
Originally posted by PurpleSky:
Ubuntu with Geforce GT 540M (Optimus) running Amnesia very smoothly.

Also, It was really easy to install Bumblebee. I think Optimus won't be an issue.


You try run Trine 2?
When I start the game (GT540m with optirun), the game runs at 10~15 FPS, not more.
I dont know if optirun is working.
STrRedWolf Nov 22, 2012 @ 8:00am 
If you follow Phoronix you'll know the whole situation. In short:

Linus (head honcho of the Linux kernel) wants Nvidia to push out Optimus stuff now.

Nvidia wants to push out Optimus stuff as well to, by using a new feature to communicate between it and the Intel drivers called DMA-BUF. The guys behind Xorg also support it (since they wrote it).

However, DMA-BUF got slapped with a "GPL-Only" flag. Nvidia drivers aren't GPL'ed, causing a problem.

Nvidia's trying (and asking nicely) to get that flag dropped. Some die-hards in the Linux kernel dev space (most notably Alan Cox) say "NO! AND YOU CAN'T MAKE ME, MY LAWYER SAYS SO!"

There's three ways of fixing this:

1. Nvidia needs to GPL or shim their drivers.

2. The die-hards need to change their minds about binary-only drivers, probably in the face of user backlash. (I'm very tempted to go up to Alan Cox with my laptop and say "HERE! Optimus is broken in Linux, and it's your fault! You got five minutes to fix it, I got a TF2 tournament that's about to start!")

3. We sue, and the whole thing takes another decade to resolve (the Nuclear option).

Ether way, it's not happening soon.
p4dev Nov 22, 2012 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by STrRedWolf:
If you follow Phoronix you'll know the whole situation. In short:

Linus (head honcho of the Linux kernel) wants Nvidia to push out Optimus stuff now.

Nvidia wants to push out Optimus stuff as well to, by using a new feature to communicate between it and the Intel drivers called DMA-BUF. The guys behind Xorg also support it (since they wrote it).

However, DMA-BUF got slapped with a "GPL-Only" flag. Nvidia drivers aren't GPL'ed, causing a problem.

Nvidia's trying (and asking nicely) to get that flag dropped. Some die-hards in the Linux kernel dev space (most notably Alan Cox) say "NO! AND YOU CAN'T MAKE ME, MY LAWYER SAYS SO!"

There's three ways of fixing this:

1. Nvidia needs to GPL or shim their drivers.

2. The die-hards need to change their minds about binary-only drivers, probably in the face of user backlash. (I'm very tempted to go up to Alan Cox with my laptop and say "HERE! Optimus is broken in Linux, and it's your fault! You got five minutes to fix it, I got a TF2 tournament that's about to start!")

3. We sue, and the whole thing takes another decade to resolve (the Nuclear option).

Ether way, it's not happening soon.

So (with all respect) we're ♥♥♥♥ed.
dilworks Dec 6, 2012 @ 11:40pm 
New not only to Steam for Linux, but for Steam in general (just created my account because of it :P)

Yes, I got one of those dreaded Optimus laptops (ASUS K53SD) - sadly here in Venezuela I had no choice (it was this, an overpriced HP with LESS specs and some garbage AMD GPU, or stick to my ancient Dell Inspiron 6400 and its pathetic X1400 discrete card which can barely run cool stuff at playable speeds. Bear in mind that this is my FIRST nVidia laptop ever!). While Bumblebee works, its implementation is based on VirtualGL, which is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ed slow, pretty much negating the fact of having a discrete GPU (it's barely faster than my Sandy Bridge HD3000).

Other options? Either the slighty faster Primus (can be tricky to build on mutlilib systems, and the performance isn't that great, but MUCH better than Bumblebee), or the Rube-Goldberg thingmajingy known as windump (which unlocks the full potential of your nVidia GPU and the performance is awesome... but it also nearly unusable :P)

I've read the whole DMA-BUF drama. Linus being Linus, GPL being a double-edged sword, and nVidia trying to keep its awesomesauce for themselves (I don't care at all about patentds and such crap). But then, I have a rule of thumb with new GPUs and Linux: they become mostly useable after 3 years. I'm patient, so will wait....
Last edited by dilworks; Dec 7, 2012 @ 12:00am
Shideneyu Dec 7, 2012 @ 2:10pm 
I think Bumblebee will do fine for now.
The only thing is that I still don't know if Bumblebee uses the latest driver of nVidia or not. It's just an off/on switch.

Anyways, I do think that when using proprietary drivers and not using Bumblebee, when we use the both graphics cards on the same time, the performences can increase. So Bumblebee is not made for gaming, as when using the "optirun" command, everything is going to the 'best' graphic card, letting the other one handling the window manager. Therefore, using Bumblebee decreases performences !
mikeym Dec 9, 2012 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by STrRedWolf (Linux Beta):
If you follow Phoronix you'll know the whole situation. In short:
...
Ether way, it's not happening soon.

Oh! I had hoped from reading these that ti might be in Xorg 1.14 with support for:

working support for GPU switching

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE5MDY
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE5MDE
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