Doc Holliday 27. Juni 2013 um 11:37 Uhr
Kbunutu Users are getting Wayland :) Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir
Kbunutu Users are getting Wayland Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir
i Lol'ed so hard at Jonathan Riddell's Blog today as we know the Kbunutu Developers been trying to get Support From Canonical for Kbunutu KDE setup and now Canonical has ♥♥♥♥ed off the Kbunutu Developer's, by ****ing them around its sad -_-

it really make me want to help them Develop on wayland

"A few months ago Canonical announced their new graphics system for Ubuntu, Mir. It's a shame the Linux desktop market hasn't taken off as we all hoped at the turn of the millennium and they feel the need to follow a more Apple or Android style of approach making an OS which works in isolation rather than as part of a community development method.

Here at Kubuntu we still want to work as part of the community development, taking the fine software from KDE and other upstreams and putting it on computers worldwide. So when Ubuntu Desktop gets switched to Mir we won't be following. We'll be staying with X on the images for our 13.10 release now in development and the 14.04LTS release next year. After that we hope to switch to Wayland which is what KDE and every other Linux distro hopes to do"

http://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/26/kubuntu-wont-be-switching-mir-or-xmir
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Axel 27. Juni 2013 um 11:55 Uhr 
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=x_wayland_situation&num=1
Wayland is better then X server -- So Wayland Gives you more FPS?
If that's the case I hope Ubuntu switches to Wayland.
If they don't I'll try to manually install it, if I fails I'll install Kbunutu. (Still in consideration )

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Doc Holliday 27. Juni 2013 um 11:58 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spock:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=x_wayland_situation&num=1
Wayland is better then X server -- So Wayland Gives you more FPS?
If that's the case I hope Ubuntu switches to Wayland.
Ubuntu is going to use Mir Kbunutu is going to Use Wayland :)
http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/864969953333730333/
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Axel 27. Juni 2013 um 12:13 Uhr 
Which one is faster/better?
And will this matter for how many fps?
Also will I able to choose? (If I get more FPS on Wayland then on Mir ofcourse)
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Doc Holliday 27. Juni 2013 um 12:19 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spock:
Which one is faster?
And will this matter for how many fps?
Also will I able to choose? (If I get more FPS on Wayland then on Mir ofcourse)
Atm Wayland looks best and only Ubuntu unity will use Mir far as i know
ash 27. Juni 2013 um 13:17 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spock:
Which one is faster/better?
And will this matter for how many fps?
Also will I able to choose? (If I get more FPS on Wayland then on Mir ofcourse)
Currently X is vastly faster than either Mir or Wayland. It's the only one that has proprietary driver support. No one who plays games on steam should consider switching now.

Canonical claims Mir will have proprietary drivers for 14.04. I'm not holding my breath for that, but it could happen I suppose.

I don't know what the driver schedule for Wayland is, or if there even is a schedule.

As to which one is better, Mir or Wayland, both are only somewhat useable at the moment, so I'd say it's too early to answer. Hopefully whichever one is technically superior will win out, but it's just as likely people's idiotic biases towards one or the other will play a major role.
Doc Holliday 27. Juni 2013 um 13:28 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von ash:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spock:
Which one is faster/better?
And will this matter for how many fps?
Also will I able to choose? (If I get more FPS on Wayland then on Mir ofcourse)
Currently X is vastly faster than either Mir or Wayland. It's the only one that has proprietary driver support. No one who plays games on steam should consider switching now.

Canonical claims Mir will have proprietary drivers for 14.04. I'm not holding my breath for that, but it could happen I suppose.

I don't know what the driver schedule for Wayland is, or if there even is a schedule.

As to which one is better, Mir or Wayland, both are only somewhat useable at the moment, so I'd say it's too early to answer. Hopefully whichever one is technically superior will win out, but it's just as likely people's idiotic biases towards one or the other will play a major role.

good point Most of the time it's who has the best PR Canonical try's hard
Wayland by far is technically superior
Wayland Kicks butt on the raspberry pi http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/4053
Pocket 27. Juni 2013 um 17:38 Uhr 
I think at this point Kubuntu should break off their connection with Canonical, change their name, and focus on just being a solid Debian-based distro with KDE rather than an Ubuntu spinoff specifically.
zenitur 27. Juni 2013 um 19:35 Uhr 
I'm glad that it's not concern me. I prefer openSUSE. For Kubuntu users I recommend Debian LiveCD. I think, it's better, and you will not lose the habitual DEB package.
Doc Holliday 28. Juni 2013 um 7:48 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von zenitur:
I'm glad that it's not concern me. I prefer openSUSE. For Kubuntu users I recommend Debian LiveCD. I think, it's better, and you will not lose the habitual DEB package.
Debian is out of date at release -_- the kernel is the only part not out of date do to it being a LTS kernal
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Naharis H'ghar 28. Juni 2013 um 8:46 Uhr 
Will there be "nvidia optimus support" for mir?
Doc Holliday 28. Juni 2013 um 8:52 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Deader H'ghar:
Will there be "nvidia optimus support" for mir?
the optimus is supported on Xorg far as i know
Shark 28. Juni 2013 um 10:06 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Doc Holliday:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Deader H'ghar:
Will there be "nvidia optimus support" for mir?
the optimus is supported on Xorg far as i know
Doesn't save you any power though, since the drivers can not completely disable the Nvidia gpu.
Doc Holliday 28. Juni 2013 um 10:28 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wouter:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Doc Holliday:
the optimus is supported on Xorg far as i know
Doesn't save you any power though, since the drivers can not completely disable the Nvidia gpu.
atm for low end intel has the best gpu
blackout24 28. Juni 2013 um 10:55 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Deader H'ghar:
Will there be "nvidia optimus support" for mir?

Doesn't depend on the display server just on the driver.
Shark 28. Juni 2013 um 10:55 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Doc Holliday:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wouter:
Doesn't save you any power though, since the drivers can not completely disable the Nvidia gpu.
atm for low end intel has the best gpu
Soon for mid range too, they are launching the chips with an Intel Iris Pro 5200 gpu somewhere between the end of july and the beginning of october. This chip is as fast as an nvidia gt650m.
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