gutigen o) Mar 4, 2013 @ 10:19am
Canonical announce custom display server
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Tweakedenigma Mar 4, 2013 @ 10:23am 
I am interested to see the end Result, X is getting rather long in the tooth and Wayland is no where near where I expected it to be by now.
[Linux] Trigger Mar 4, 2013 @ 10:27am 
I see the day comming on which Canonical replaces the Linux kernel by a proprietary one and GNU tools with their own stuff.
Then again, let's stay optimistic even though Xorg is still enough for me.
Doc Holliday Mar 4, 2013 @ 10:39am 
the a guy form Canonical made them mad Don't ♥♥♥♥ On Wayland http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxODA
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gutigen o) Mar 4, 2013 @ 10:40am 
Originally posted by Nemesis:
old news

Not old, it's first official info about this from Canonical, everything else earlier was just a rumor.
Doc Holliday Mar 4, 2013 @ 10:44am 
good luck getting amd and nvidia drivers to work on it
Agent 86 Mar 4, 2013 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by gutigen o) Linux:
More details and additional links here:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxNzI

'Android graphics drivers will be supported. Existing DRM/KMS/Mesa/GBM (the open-source Linux graphics drivers) will work. Canonical is pressuring the binary blob vendors to make their drivers compatible'

well, there's a start :) Be interesting to watch it progress. Ubuntu is certainly doing something new for Linux, and even as an 'other distribution' user I find this really exciting & interesting :)
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gutigen o) Mar 4, 2013 @ 11:09am 
Originally posted by Agent 86:
Originally posted by gutigen o) Linux:
More details and additional links here:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxNzI

'Android graphics drivers will be supported. Existing DRM/KMS/Mesa/GBM (the open-source Linux graphics drivers) will work. Canonical is pressuring the binary blob vendors to make their drivers compatible'

well, there's a start :) Be interesting to watch it progress. Ubuntu is certainly doing something new for Linux, and even as an 'other distribution' user I find this really exciting & interesting :)

I wonder if lack of Wayland support from Nvidia has something to do with this. Perhaps Canonical is already working with them on this matter.
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Doc Holliday Mar 4, 2013 @ 11:14am 
looks like to me it's going to be Ubuntu only haha
Agent 86 Mar 4, 2013 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Nemesis:
looks like to me it's going to be Ubuntu only haha

If it's open source I don't understand how it can be? Open source or not though, good luck & well done to Canonical for being innovative. No-one is forced to use Ubuntu thanks to the free and open source nature of Linux but I respect how Ubuntu is trying to be different and differentiating itself from other Linux distributions in giving people an alternative choice that really is alternative :)
blackout24 Mar 4, 2013 @ 11:42am 
Originally posted by gutigen o) Linux:
Originally posted by Agent 86:

'Android graphics drivers will be supported. Existing DRM/KMS/Mesa/GBM (the open-source Linux graphics drivers) will work. Canonical is pressuring the binary blob vendors to make their drivers compatible'

well, there's a start :) Be interesting to watch it progress. Ubuntu is certainly doing something new for Linux, and even as an 'other distribution' user I find this really exciting & interesting :)

I wonder if lack of Wayland support from Nvidia has something to do with this. Perhaps Canonical is already working with them on this matter.

NVIDIA doesn't lack wayland support. NVIDIA lacks KMS which is needed for wayland based compositors. The reason why there is no KMS with AMD/NVIDIA closed drivers is probably the same reason why we still have no Optimus support from NVIDIA. Their closed driver can not use some parts of the kernel due to licensing issues. Which caused quite some uproar in the kernel dev community and lead NVIDIA to implement their own work around which is supposed to be merged into Linux 3.9 called Prime Helpers.

Now reading that Mir only works with open driver leads me to belief that Mir will suffer from the same support issues. And let's not talk about AMD. They are not even fast to support the newest X.Org either. Now they want to convince them to support Mir...

I give this only 30% chance of success. They are trying to do to manythings at once. New display server. New widget toolkit with QML/Qt5. New devices. New rolling release model. Everything is supposed to be ready by 14.04.... Give me a break.
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Doc Holliday Mar 4, 2013 @ 11:47am 
Canonical is just doing what Microsoft did Embrace extend and extinguish
i did not see it being open source ill keep looking R.I.P. Xorg
Tweakedenigma Mar 4, 2013 @ 12:11pm 
Originally posted by Nemesis:
Canonical is just doing what Microsoft did Embrace extend and extinguish
i did not see it being open source ill keep looking R.I.P. Xorg

Why wouldn't it be Open? Unity , Bazaar , Storm, Upstart, Quickly, Ubuntu Software Center, Launchpad all are.

The only items I can think of that are not open are, LandScape & Ubuntu One(server side, the client side is Open).

Shark Mar 4, 2013 @ 1:44pm 
This is probably a horrible idea, unless the phone os becomes a huge succes.
CarrotDick Mar 4, 2013 @ 3:01pm 
No one should be "RIP" Xorg. Xorg is a monolithic nightmare. Unfortunately, KMS and Wayland were supposed to be the way forward. From all appearances, Mir is a reaction to Canonical devs not understanding the design and simplicity of Wayland.

Unity being ported back to Qt/QML is fantastic news. Can't wait to see Qt5 take over everything!
John Noob doesn´t play ranked Mar 4, 2013 @ 3:39pm 
I'm afraid of time... 2014 as release time is too crazy for Canonical..
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