[Linux] Junior s2 Camila Mar 2, 2013 @ 2:48am
Suggestion about Tux
Valve, you should only give Tux'es to people who played more than 20 hours on Linux. People are using Live USB's to open Steam and get the Tux, others are using 3rd party software!

You should put out a record that says

User: Name
OS Type: X
Total Linux Play Time: X

Those who didn't play more than 20hours ON LINUX shouldn't get the Tux, it's not fair to those who actually are supporting the community.

Also, Tux should only be used for those who are actually running Linux. A Windows user using a Tux? Not in my world
Last edited by [Linux] Junior s2 Camila; Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:29am
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OverlordTomala Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:00am 
Hell, even an hour would work. Since I'm sure most of the people who grabbed one only ran linux long enough to go in, get a tux,then leave.
AzA-XC Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:03am 
Sounds fair to me. +1
gutigen o) Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:13am 
It's a little annoying that we have been filling up bug/feature reports in last few months and only reward is a Tux which any other system user can get by just installing Ubuntu on USB for 5min. I know that this is in Linux spirit etc, but Steam is NOT open source, community driven project. It's part of multimilion business and Valve is saving a lot of cash thanks to us, not Windows or OSX users.
Cosmo Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:19am 
I firmly disagree, I use Linux as my main OS, have since before the Tux was announced, (I re-installed Linux as soon as I discovered steam was available for Linux) but have not been able to play comfortably since the second day I had it, due to an update which broke controller support for a few people. Due to a disability, I am unable to use a keyboard with my left hand, under those rules, I, a genuine Linux user, would be forced to idle or play hopelessly/in pain in order to obtain said Tux. Simply not worth it for me. And yet, I am a true supporter of the community, and contribute daily to these forums.

Additionally, many people who have had Linux for years might only play tf2 rarely, they are bigger supporters than 60% of the newly grown, real Linux community, and they might not get it.

The main point however, is that regular TF2 players aren't the majority of the Linux community, and maybe not even the Steam for Linux community. But the Tux's are isolated to TF2. So it's not really representatives of the support base's size. Besides which, the people who don't really use Linux are likely to end up advertising Linux with the Tux's more anyway, so it doesn't hurt the community.

It is a reward, but it's purely aesthetic, it's not worth enough to worry about it That much.

The "I cheated for a Tux" hack is a much bigger issue, for multiple reasons, among which, the poor fools could quite well be making their computers vulnerable to malware, and it is a bug exploit, rather than a cheap run, installing Linux is pretty difficult, and, as I heard recently, should not be done on a time limit, I really don't blame people for using live CDs, many of them may have already tried to actually install Linux legitimately and used the CDs as a last resort.
[Linux] Junior s2 Camila Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:22am 
Originally posted by gutigen o) Linux:
It's a little annoying that we have been filling up bug/feature reports in last few months and only reward is a Tux which any other system user can get by just installing Ubuntu on USB for 5min. I know that this is in Linux spirit etc, but Steam is NOT open source, community driven project. It's part of multimilion business and Valve is saving a lot of cash thanks to us, not Windows or OSX users.
Agreed. WE are the ones testing the system, WE desirve the Tux. People using USB and/or that .exe that gets you a Tux should get banned immediately, otherwise I don't feel the need to support this company as much as I do, it's not fair.
Cosmo Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:24am 
Originally posted by gutigen o) Linux:
It's a little annoying that we have been filling up bug/feature reports in last few months and only reward is a Tux which any other system user can get by just installing Ubuntu on USB for 5min. I know that this is in Linux spirit etc, but Steam is NOT open source, community driven project. It's part of multimilion business and Valve is saving a lot of cash thanks to us, not Windows or OSX users.
Bugs are exactly the reason this is a problem. I /can't/ achieve this, and I am a real Linux user. How should I feel being deprived of the simple reward because my physical disability happens to make things difficult at this exact time on Linux?

I can agree to a cheater's lament type scenario, with say, an upgrade to the Tux awarded to users who play for 24+ hours on Linux, which would only be available if you already had the Tux, but the upgrade should remain available beyond the (already passed) deadline.
mattyy1hp |Debian/Linux| Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:25am 
+1, it would be fair.
Also, another option - Tux can be used only for those, who is playing on Linux OS.
gutigen o) Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:28am 
Originally posted by xnuıן Marcos Cosmos:
It is a reward, but it's purely aesthetic, it's not worth enough to worry about it That much.

I wouldn't worry at all, I don't care so much about TF2 items. Point is that some of us supported this (keyword here) commercial project which we gain nothing from. If you contribute to open source project, you gain satisfaction that you've been part of something cool, perhaps got your name in About or Credits. Here we are CUSTOMERS who are actually spending our own time reporting bugs, suggesting features and what we get in exchange? Nothing. Because if not for us, Valve would have to hire QA staff anyway to make Steam for Linux usable.
instabilis Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:28am 
Originally posted by Linux Junior s2 Camila:
Originally posted by gutigen o) Linux:
It's a little annoying that we have been filling up bug/feature reports in last few months and only reward is a Tux which any other system user can get by just installing Ubuntu on USB for 5min. I know that this is in Linux spirit etc, but Steam is NOT open source, community driven project. It's part of multimilion business and Valve is saving a lot of cash thanks to us, not Windows or OSX users.
Agreed. WE are the ones testing the system, WE desirve the Tux. People using USB and/or that .exe that gets you a Tux should get banned immediately, otherwise I don't feel the need to support this company as much as I do, it's not fair.
Please don't bring this whole "user entitlement" thing to the Steam for Linux community.
Cosmo Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:29am 
Originally posted by mattyy1hp:
Also, another option - Tux can be used only for those, who is playing on Linux OS.
This I can +1. However. Playing at least 24 hours within the original time, due to bugs, can not always be possible. :C
[Linux] Junior s2 Camila Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:30am 
Originally posted by ;864961175429668691:
+1, it would be fair.
Also, another option - Tux can be used only for those, who is playing on Linux OS.
+1. Added to the thread.
Cosmo Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:32am 
Originally posted by instabilis:
Originally posted by Linux Junior s2 Camila:
Agreed. WE are the ones testing the system, WE desirve the Tux. People using USB and/or that .exe that gets you a Tux should get banned immediately, otherwise I don't feel the need to support this company as much as I do, it's not fair.
Please don't bring this whole "entitlement" thing to the Steam for Linux community.

+1
Edit: I didn't even see the end of that post you posted until now.

Camila. If you are only supporting the Linux community to 1-up everybody else. You're support wasn't real to begin with. It is just as bad if not worse, than using Linux /just/ long enough to get the Tux. -_-
[Linux] Junior s2 Camila Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:34am 
Originally posted by instabilis:
Originally posted by Linux Junior s2 Camila:
Agreed. WE are the ones testing the system, WE desirve the Tux. People using USB and/or that .exe that gets you a Tux should get banned immediately, otherwise I don't feel the need to support this company as much as I do, it's not fair.
Please don't bring this whole "user entitlement" thing to the Steam for Linux community.
You're saying it's fair that we're here working our asses off so that cheaters get the Tux?
I've installed/re-installed almost 100 times 3 different distros = openSUSE, Ubuntu and Linux Mint.

People download an .exe and there you go, Tux on their inventory without even having played on Linux.
Cosmo Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:38am 
Originally posted by Linux Junior s2 Camila:
Originally posted by instabilis:
Please don't bring this whole "user entitlement" thing to the Steam for Linux community.
You're saying it's fair that we're here working our asses off so that cheaters get the Tux?
I've installed/re-installed almost 100 times 3 different distros = openSUSE, Ubuntu and Linux Mint.

People download an .exe and there you go, Tux on their inventory without even having played on Linux.

They aren't /really/ cheating. And the Tux is more of an advert than a reward, IMO.

Besides which, you are basically saying that you are tempted to un-install Linux if people who had an easier time than you get "your" Tux. -.-
[Linux] Junior s2 Camila Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:40am 
Originally posted by xnuıן Marcos Cosmos:
Originally posted by Linux Junior s2 Camila:
You're saying it's fair that we're here working our asses off so that cheaters get the Tux?
I've installed/re-installed almost 100 times 3 different distros = openSUSE, Ubuntu and Linux Mint.

People download an .exe and there you go, Tux on their inventory without even having played on Linux.

They aren't /really/ cheating. And the Tux is more of an advert than a reward, IMO.

Besides which, you are basically saying that you are tempted to un-install Linux if people who had an easier time than you get "your" Tux. -.-
No, I said that I'd stop supporting steam as I'm doing right now.

And people are NOT cheating? Really? Windows users run a .exe and Tux magically appears on their inventory without the need to run Linux is not cheating? YEAH!! RIGHT! =)
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