Heeter Feb 17, 2013 @ 11:53am
Ubuntu 12.4 or 12.10?
Hey all,

Quick question: Should I go back to 12.4? Other than a couple of unity lens errors on 12.10 that I can't get rid or for the life of me, Steam has been really stable on 12.10 for the last couple of months. Was reading somewhere that Steam should be on 12.4, is that correct? I am willing to move to 12.4 if the need arises, but again, it is running super stable as far as I can see.

I most probably answered my own question here, but I would to hear more.

Thanks

Heeter
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gutigen o) Feb 17, 2013 @ 11:55am 
If it's stable you will gain nothing by moving to 12.04 from 12.10. Two months till 13.04 which is amazingly stable already (alpha), so imo just wait for upgrade :)
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Tweakedenigma Feb 17, 2013 @ 11:56am 
I haven't had any issues with 12.10 and wouldn't bother moving unless there was a problem.
BHXSpecter Feb 17, 2013 @ 11:57am 
Only upgrade if you truly trust you computer. I decided to just upgrade to 12.10 on my desktop and it froze while installing and now I have no clue how to make it do the upgrade because it goes to a blank screen after I pick the Kernel version I want to load.
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Shark Feb 17, 2013 @ 11:58am 
12.04 wins, especially since 3 days ago when they released the .2 update for it. 12.04 gets 5 years of security updates and support, 12.10 will no longer be supported in april.
Shark Feb 17, 2013 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by BHXSpecter:
Only upgrade if you truly trust you computer. I decided to just upgrade to 12.10 on my desktop and it froze while installing and now I have no clue how to make it do the upgrade because it goes to a blank screen after I pick the Kernel version I want to load.
You can probably fix the system if pressing ctrl+alt+f3 does something when you're stuck on the black screen. If you can I could help you out with reinstalling videocard drivers, if you have an amd card anyway.
gutigen o) Feb 17, 2013 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by Wouter:
12.04 wins, especially since 3 days ago when they released the .2 update for it. 12.04 gets 5 years of security updates and support, 12.10 will no longer be supported in april.

April when 13.04 is out which everyone is going to upgrade to anyway (and they should, kernel 3.8, full gtk3 and many other improvements to stability and speed).
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[Linux] unbridledExüberance Feb 17, 2013 @ 12:03pm 
I would recommend 12.04 for a few reasons:
* It's LTS so it will be supported for longer
* It doesn't come with the controversial Amazon adds
* There are no real significant differences between it and 12.10

You should install the Linux 3.5 kernel, however, which I don't think comes with 12.04 (it used 3.2 when I installed it, but that may have changed now with the .2 update)
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Shark Feb 17, 2013 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by mr.exuberant:
I would recommend 12.04 for a few reasons:
* It's LTS so it will be supported for longer
* It doesn't come with the controversial Amazon adds
* There are no real significant differences between it and 12.10

You should install the Linux 3.5 kernel, however, which I don't think comes with 12.04 (it used 3.2 when I installed it, but that may have changed now with the .2 update)
3.5 is on the 12.04.2 iso, together with an x update which allows you to use the new drivers by amd and nvidia.
Originally posted by gutigen o) Linux:
Originally posted by Wouter:
12.04 wins, especially since 3 days ago when they released the .2 update for it. 12.04 gets 5 years of security updates and support, 12.10 will no longer be supported in april.

April when 13.04 is out which everyone is going to upgrade to anyway (and they should, kernel 3.8, full gtk3 and many other improvements to stability and speed).
Not yet for me, AMD gives no support for kernels higher than 3.5 yet.
Last edited by Shark; Feb 17, 2013 @ 12:06pm
gutigen o) Feb 17, 2013 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by mr.exuberant:
I would recommend 12.04 for a few reasons:
* It's LTS so it will be supported for longer
* It doesn't come with the controversial Amazon adds
* There are no real significant differences between it and 12.10

You should install the Linux 3.5 kernel, however, which I don't think comes with 12.04 (it used 3.2 when I installed it, but that may have changed now with the .2 update)

*LTS is for workstations and servers, not for gamers :) Gamers want constant improvements to performance which can be found only in latest versions etc, especially now when linux gaming is growing so fast.
*Amazon Lens can be disabled with one click in System > Privacy or by uninstalling
sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
*True, that's why there is no point with rolling back to older version, better wait for 13.04

12.04 has 3.2 kernel, 12.10 has 3.5.
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sounds like a wooosh Feb 17, 2013 @ 12:09pm 
Moving back is a bad idea.

Oh! – Just in the case that some programs got improvements in between - otherwise it should be fine. - And also only if you would like to keep your home-files… If you start fresh and clean with a new installation all should be fine (but then you have some work to configure everything just again as it should ;) - well, probably …)
Shark Feb 17, 2013 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by gutigen o) Linux:
12.04 has 3.2 kernel, 12.10 has 3.5.
I quote from the release notes of 12.04.2 "By default, the 12.04.2 point release will ship with a newer 3.5.0-23.35 Ubuntu kernel from Quantal, and a matching X.org stack."
source: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop
gutigen o) Feb 17, 2013 @ 12:20pm 
Originally posted by Wouter:
Originally posted by gutigen o) Linux:
12.04 has 3.2 kernel, 12.10 has 3.5.
I quote from the release notes of 12.04.2 "By default, the 12.04.2 point release will ship with a newer 3.5.0-23.35 Ubuntu kernel from Quantal, and a matching X.org stack."
source: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop

Oh, nice :)
Shark Feb 17, 2013 @ 12:23pm 
idd, not much reason to run 12.10 now, it's more buggy anyway.
Oerthling Feb 17, 2013 @ 12:39pm 
Originally posted by Wouter:
12.04 wins, especially since 3 days ago when they released the .2 update for it. 12.04 gets 5 years of security updates and support, 12.10 will no longer be supported in april.

That is NOT correct. While LTS releases are supported for 5 years, the regular releases get 18 months (3 Ubuntu upgrade cycles - always gets you to next LTS at least) of support/updates.

If everything works fine for you on 12.10 it makes no sense to change anything.
And we'll have to see how LTS vs interim releases works out for Steam on Linux.
I expect most players to upgrade every 6 months. Especially as the proprietary drivers also update in time for the 6-month cycle.

12.10 works fine. I have Steam running on it since the second round of closed beta invitations.
gutigen o) Feb 17, 2013 @ 12:42pm 
Originally posted by Wouter:
idd, not much reason to run 12.10 now, it's more buggy anyway.

I like latest and greatest packages and 12.10 is first Gnome Remix spinoff (I love Gnome Shell), works great so far :)
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