Cow Feb 16, 2013 @ 5:11pm
Not enough space for tf2
How would I allow more space for my Linux portion of my dual boot?
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Cow Feb 16, 2013 @ 5:54pm 
And if I was doing it just for the tux, I could have used that third-party thing.
[Linux] TheCubeIsALie Feb 16, 2013 @ 5:58pm 
Haven't used ubuntu in a while, but can't you just boot into the ubuntu cd, and use the partition manager to make the ubuntu partition bigger?
Cow Feb 16, 2013 @ 6:01pm 
Originally posted by TheCubeIsALie:
Haven't used ubuntu in a while, but can't you just boot into the ubuntu cd, and use the partition manager to make the ubuntu partition bigger?
I'm not using an actual cd
And a fair amount of my space is split between Mac and windows.
It doesn't let me split Mac into half again.
[Linux] TheCubeIsALie Feb 16, 2013 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by Doctor Professor Medic:
Originally posted by TheCubeIsALie:
Haven't used ubuntu in a while, but can't you just boot into the ubuntu cd, and use the partition manager to make the ubuntu partition bigger?
I'm not using an actual cd
And a fair amount of my space is split between Mac and windows.
It doesn't let me split Mac into half again.

Did you use a USB drive or did you use wubi to install ubuntu?
If you used a USB drive, I'm sure the partition manager would be there.
If you used wubi, try reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk
Cow Feb 16, 2013 @ 6:16pm 
Originally posted by TheCubeIsALie:
Originally posted by Doctor Professor Medic:
I'm not using an actual cd
And a fair amount of my space is split between Mac and windows.
It doesn't let me split Mac into half again.

Did you use a USB drive or did you use wubi to install ubuntu?
If you used a USB drive, I'm sure the partition manager would be there.
If you used wubi, try reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk
I used wubi. Thank you.
[Linux] TheCubeIsALie Feb 16, 2013 @ 6:22pm 
No problem, glad to have helped!
Also, if you like ubuntu, and you think you're ready to move the wubi installation into a real partition, here's a link to help you with that:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
Obsidian Ape Feb 16, 2013 @ 6:32pm 
Glad you're giving all OS equal treatment. I personally think if you're doing this to give linux gaming a try, then don't use Wubi because Gaming through a VHD might be buggy.
P.S. The third party tool was a prank.
Last edited by Obsidian Ape; Feb 16, 2013 @ 6:34pm
Marky Mark Feb 16, 2013 @ 7:01pm 
Make a new library on a larger partition, or sym link a folder into the SteamApps directory.
Cow Feb 16, 2013 @ 8:09pm 
Originally posted by Obsidian Blade:
Glad you're giving all OS equal treatment. I personally think if you're doing this to give linux gaming a try, then don't use Wubi because Gaming through a VHD might be buggy.
P.S. The third party tool was a prank.
Well that's why I'm glad I want a triple boot. c:
P.S. To the sassy first replier ~ I also had gotten a new keyboard just for linux, so there you go.
Last edited by Cow; Feb 16, 2013 @ 8:12pm
yabba Feb 16, 2013 @ 9:16pm 
Originally posted by Doctor Professor Medic:
I used wubi. Thank you.

You can make the wubi disk bigger - but if the ntfs file gets badly fragmented mount.ntfs will go into a pathological bug where the system grinds to a complete halt during any disk access (which, if it happens to you, you may find defragmenting windows fixes it)

This walks you through the process of increasing the wubi install :-
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk

I think I looked at the script but did the commands myself instead when I did it.

If you envisage using linux longer term you may be better finding some disk space for a "proper" install (at which point there's a script called wubi-move.sh that will copy your wubi install across, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi

Assuming you've got basic partitions on windows (rather than LDM which windows calls 'dynamic' - you can see in control panel, if you search for disk management, what partitions you have).

You can create space using window's own shrink volume (which is part of disk management in control panel). The process is a bit convulted, you run shrink volume, windows runs defragmenter which figures out what files it can move to create a big chunk of empty space - it then prompts you by giving you a figure in MB for the largest partition it can create.

If that figure is big enough, or too big, you can enter a smaller value and you're good to go.

If windows says something that's a lot smaller than the free space on the drive though, you have to play around a bit more....

In event viewer, at the end of this process, in the application errors section, there will be an entry that will tell you the last unmovable file. i.e that's the file that limits the amount of contiguous empty space it can create. Let's say, for example, event viewer says the last unmovable file is pagefile.sys::$data - then you can temporarily disable paging on that disk, delete the pagefile, and do it again.

At which point it might say the last unmovable file is windows.edb - which is the windows search database. So you can stop and disable the windows search service and try again....you get the picture, eventually you should get it to report a reasonable amount of space, at which point you can accept the value it gives and let it move the files and shrink the volume. Then you go back and enable paging and enable windows search (and whatever else)

Of course, you have to know windows.edb is part of windows search and that you can stop the windows search service. Google is your friend here. The above 2 are just examples, the last unmovable file for you may be different (and probably will be)

Similarly each time you go through this process it takes time. This is the conservative approach I suppose - if you think windows is likely not to break itself, take the hurt in time and finesse - and you don't need to boot from CDs, buy any 3rd party software.

There are other methods of shrinking disks that probably work when windows isn't booted (so they don't suffer from the above iterative process of trying to stop services that have files open so you can grab a bit more disk real estate) but they run the potential risk of doing something windows doesn't like. Caveat emptor. There are probably some expensive disk tools you can buy too that can do it, but I wouldn't bother.

I believe gparted (which is a linux program and hence free software) will shrink ntfs partitions. Which you can no doubt do by booting from a linux CD or USB stick rather than from wubi, so that your NTFS volume isn't being used.

Lore will tell you that you should backup first and so on, but you won't (and if you did, you could just restore the backup and free the space that way)

Another option, of course, is to add an extra HD to your computer, partition it and install linux on that.

Oh, unstated, but you can only get free space if you've got free space to get. If you need to free some space a program like windirstat will tell you where your existing space is being used - obviously it goes without saying use this, if you need to, before doing any of the above :)
Last edited by yabba; Feb 16, 2013 @ 9:24pm
Cow Feb 16, 2013 @ 9:23pm 
I have the space, it's like this. (Ratio of numbers)
30,000 mac 20,000 pc and 10,000 Linux
However the Mac is the computer, the pc is what the Linux splits from.
I can't explain it well.
Long story short: I have the space, I just need to know how to take it from the mac part
Last edited by Cow; Feb 16, 2013 @ 9:23pm
yabba Feb 16, 2013 @ 9:28pm 
Originally posted by Doctor Professor Medic:
I just need to know how to take it from the mac part

Ah, which makes my "how to shrink windows" a bit moot :)

I suggest the process will be similar in outline though.

1. Find some tool that does it.
2. Use that tool.

But I only ever used Macs as a vehicle for comedy so I can't really give any specifics.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if gparted works for that too. Google "how to shrink my mac partitions" will probably tell you.
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