UnbendingNose Feb 15, 2013 @ 10:46pm
Problems With Ubunu 12.04, many tries many failures.
First off I'd like to start out by saying that this isn't my first time playing around with ubuntu 12.04 but it's probably going to be my last. I've learned a lot about how the OS works but I've never had any luck getting it to work. It's been completely unstable, slow, and unreliable. I've had to reinstall it several times because ubuntu would either start seriously flashing and glitching or it wouldn't boot period. This is before I attemped to install Steam. Now for the past few days I've been trying to get Steam up and running. I've searched high in low on these forums and via google and have found many different methods. After several re-installs of ubuntu 12.04, I've finally been able to get Steam to somewhat function. I was not able to successfully install 64-bit version from software center even after installing latest updates. Kept recieving error message.

However, the problems I'm having include:
- Steam icon in unity appears as a white question-mark with blue background.
- Pop up consistently appears saying "Steam Fatal Error: Steam faild to load: *SteamStartEngine(0xffe02440) failed with error 1: A Steam Engine Instance already exists
- Cannot install my Nvidia 310M drivers, additional drivers does not detect 3rd party
(tried using various terminal methods from google with no luck)

I'm trying to remain calm, but after two days of struggling and using round about ways, I'm really wanting to give up on steam for linux and go back to windows where I'm won't receive a head ache when installing software. I really do want to give steam on ubuntu a fair shot, but it's been nothing but a bad experience for me so far. A little help would be much appreciated.
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[dirrty]gsharp Feb 15, 2013 @ 10:50pm 
Have you tried "easy mode" yet? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve

To summarize:

1) Install 12.04
2) Apply all updates and reboot;
3) Verify you have linux-source and linux-headers-generic installed. If not, install them. (don't knoe if they are installed by default in 12.04);
4) Install nvidia-experimental-310 video driver.
5) Reboot
6) Install Steam Client from Ubuntu Store
7) Profit

In most cases, this process takes under an hour and requires a single visit to a shell prompt (to install Synaptic)

I'm willing to help you step through the process if you want. Trying to repair a borked Ubuntu install is a different matter though.
UnbendingNose Feb 15, 2013 @ 10:59pm 
Great, within 5 minutes of posting this discussion I shutdown my computer and tried to boot up ubuntu again and the purple screen came up for about 2 seconds and then went completely black and nothing happened after waiting for a few minutes. Broken again? :P Time to re-install again? :P..... grrrrr
[dirrty]gsharp Feb 15, 2013 @ 11:01pm 
Originally posted by UnbendingNose:
Great, within 5 minutes of posting this discussion I shutdown my computer and tried to boot up ubuntu again and the purple screen came up for about 2 seconds and then went completely black and nothing happened after waiting for a few minutes. Broken again? :P Time to re-install again? :P..... grrrrr

Listen, take a breath, kiss that broken install good-bye, and let's do a fresh install. I just snagged 12.04 and will walkthough an install / setup with you.
anandrkris Feb 15, 2013 @ 11:01pm 
If your Nvidia graphics card is based on Optimus technology, then you will have to install 'bumblebee' to get it working on Linux.
UnbendingNose Feb 15, 2013 @ 11:01pm 
Originally posted by dirrtygsharp:
Have you tried "easy mode" yet? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve

To summarize:

1) Install 12.04
2) Apply all updates and reboot;
3) Verify you have linux-source and linux-headers-generic installed. If not, install them. (don't knoe if they are installed by default in 12.04);
4) Install nvidia-experimental-310 video driver.
5) Reboot
6) Install Steam Client from Ubuntu Store
7) Profit

In most cases, this process takes under an hour and requires a single visit to a shell prompt (to install Synaptic)

I'm willing to help you step through the process if you want. Trying to repair a borked Ubuntu install is a different matter though.

See, I've tried to install the Nvidia experimental driver for 310 in the past and I tried yesterday and tonight but when I go into additional drivers it doesn't list anything and says that no 3rd party drivers or video is present, something along those lines. I also tried installing the drivers from the terminal with no luck.



UnbendingNose Feb 15, 2013 @ 11:03pm 
Originally posted by anandrkris:
If your Nvidia graphics card is based on Optimus technology, then you will have to install 'bumblebee' to get it working on Linux.
Yah, it's optimus haha
Great... now what do I need to install first to make sure bumblebee works? I'm sure it'll need something, seems like you need to install multiple things first before you can install the thing you want with anything you install on ubuntu.
[dirrty]gsharp Feb 15, 2013 @ 11:05pm 
Originally posted by UnbendingNose:
Originally posted by anandrkris:
If your Nvidia graphics card is based on Optimus technology, then you will have to install 'bumblebee' to get it working on Linux.
Yah, it's optimus haha
Great... now what do I need to install first to make sure bumblebee works? I'm sure it'll need something, seems like you need to install multiple things first before you can install the thing you want with anything you install on ubuntu.

I don't have a quick answer....but the Ubuntu Wiki has a page!

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[dirrty]gsharp Feb 15, 2013 @ 11:09pm 
Originally posted by anandrkris:
If your Nvidia graphics card is based on Optimus technology, then you will have to install 'bumblebee' to get it working on Linux.

Do you have an Optimus-based card or what? I'm impressed that you came up with that so fast! :)
anandrkris Feb 15, 2013 @ 11:18pm 
Hi - You need to purge any already existing Nvidia drivers, install bumblebee and reinstall nvidia drivers. There are lot of posts in askubuntu and also check the steam http://steamcommunity.com/groups/LinuxOptimus. Hope this helps. I have Nvidia 540M and TF2 is working smoothly on my Dell laptop.
[dirrty]gsharp Feb 15, 2013 @ 11:19pm 
Originally posted by anandrkris:
Hi - You need to purge any already existing Nvidia drivers, install bumblebee and reinstall nvidia drivers. There are lot of posts in askubuntu and also check the steam http://steamcommunity.com/groups/LinuxOptimus. Hope this helps. I have Nvidia 540M and TF2 is working smoothly on my Dell laptop.

The OP is doing a fresh install of 12.04. I passed on your tips though. (Thank you!)
UnbendingNose Feb 16, 2013 @ 12:32am 
I went ahead and did a fresh install but I ran into the same problems... The steps I completed are as follows:

- Installed Ubuntu 12.04 via wubi from Windows 8 (rebooted)
- Once in Ubuntu I ran update manager and installed 34 updates.
- *reboot
- Installed Synaptic
- Installed linux-source and linux-headers-generic from synaptic
- *reboot
- Installed Bumblebee via the terminal by following the guide on the bumbleebee wiki, link supplied by gsharp
- Rebooted my computer, Ubuntu began to boot up and I was able to see the purple loading screen for about half a second then my screen went black. Waited five minutes then hit ctrl-alt-delete to boot into windows8.

Yep, I'm not sure. Maybe I should try out 12.10 in the morning and see if I have the same issue again.
Last edited by UnbendingNose; Feb 16, 2013 @ 12:33am
MarcoDePollo Feb 16, 2013 @ 1:47am 
If you have the possibility, install Ubuntu on a regular partition, not with Wubi.
Wubi is great for doing a test-run, with the ability to easily remove it, but for an OS you regularly use, it's useless and can, and will, result in all sorts of weird behavior.
Last edited by MarcoDePollo; Feb 16, 2013 @ 1:48am
UnbendingNose Feb 16, 2013 @ 11:49am 
Okay, the thing is I'm using this as a test as I'm not installing it on my main computer. I'm using my laptop as a test bench so to speak to see if I want to take the plunge on my gaming dekstop.
UnbendingNose Feb 16, 2013 @ 11:50am 
I'm going to try wubi one more time but with 12.10 today and report my results. If it doesn't work I'll make a seperate partition and install properly.
[dirrty]gsharp Feb 16, 2013 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by UnbendingNose:
I'm going to try wubi one more time but with 12.10 today and report my results. If it doesn't work I'll make a seperate partition and install properly.

Damn that wubi!!! LOL

Good luck, Nose, we're all counting on you!

(I knew this was a bad day to give up Mentos)
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