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librecookie 2013. máj. 12. @ de. 10:29
Games U want for Steam Ubuntu Linux Game Revolution !
For some reasons I use Ubuntu linux system.

Linux is free of charge. its technologies and services can be commercial.
REDHAT AND CANONICAL ARE DOING IN THAT WAY.
CAN OPERATE IN- GAME-STORE
Windows 7, 8 are good. but MS's building their own store. No good commissions for other vendors. NO freedom for the use of windows.

Windows games with drm are always targeted for pirates on the web.
Why mp3 and the orher contents are exposed and dumped to drm-free?

the more regulations and limitations, the more illigal duplications
Why did Wine (app allows to run windows application on linux) come out ?
Think about it.

For this reason, everyone can use Ubuntu-like OS with linux kernel whenever they need much stable, faster OS. Ubuntu will be the best platform for Gaming with easy to use interfaces like Windows.

There are almost no people prefer illigal coyping or pirating
So using Ubuntu-like linux distributions will give steam better profit in the future.

the greatest of computing tech developments are achived from the linux.
Many of them used tech originated from linux
But softwares and games are only for Windows.

More linux game titles need to be published. Famous one is urgent. Even valve does not release the most recent game titles.
Sick of waiting ! :) Everyone wants to buy old ones
However, Over 14 million Ubuntu users and internet community users connected with social networking OS with linux kernel need the newest games !.
We like old ones but really want the latest !

half life, portal, portal2 is awesome. But why not portal 3? Why not civilization 5, Tom Raiders with the newest dlc, C&C series, Might and Magic? There are too much games to be mentioned that are marketable and Steam users really like! There are no officially pirated games for now on Ubuntu including any linux distributions. There will be few pirated games in the future, not like windows.
To build steam box, need to relsease the most recent games.

Possiblity of hacking or pirates ?
Windows platform is more likely to have thoese problems.
White hackers community all over the world will support for you.

Using open-gl technology, every high end game will run like light weight feather
Why not benchmark good points of Dirrect X of MS?
No more patent license contract paying massive amount money to Microsoft.

close my comment.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: librecookie; 2013. máj. 13. @ de. 8:36
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Arziel1992 2013. máj. 12. @ de. 11:30 
The problem with new games being ported to Linux distros is that they require a lot of work.

Since Ubuntu (in this case) or any other Linux distro do not allow applications to directly control the Hardware resources, you can't have a new high end game like Crysis 3 running in Linux.

Unless you have a killing graphics card with huge amounts of RAM

The OS manages the resource distribution for the applications.

Not like Windows, where the applications just use the resources regardless of who else is using them, hence why it is a very vulnerable and easy to hack/pirate system.

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Linux is not free?
If you mean Red Hat, well that's right.

If you mean Ubunut? I use Ubuntu daily in my laptop to do University work and update it daily too.
Last time I checked the Ubuntu desktop version was free and will always be free.
Ampuj4 2013. máj. 12. @ de. 11:52 
Bought the humble bundle and brutal legend works like charm on my htpc amd hardware with 1080p 7750 low profile+a10 5800k. So there are new titles 4 sure.

I agree that porting the "old" titles is time consuming. Specially if the porting hasnt been done well in first place. In this game partic you can see the quality of the game in first place as it works on AMD binary blob under linux. Example the half-life2 or rochard example didnt work for my htpc so well.

Well its not all the game makers to blame. Nvidia and AMD play their part too here. Thou Nvidia doesnt have any good low profile cards for htpc at the moment if you compare to 7750
SUSEd 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 12:05 
why not portal 3?
Maybe because it doesnt released?
Saner than a coconut 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 1:43 
There are plenty of new games on steam for linux, it's just that they're (mostly) indie games. Just be patient, even if developers of those games decided today to develop for linux (and not get blocked by their publishers), the switch would still take time.
John Noob doesn´t play ranked 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 2:28 
Mathijs De Maersschalck eredeti hozzászólása:
There are plenty of new games on steam for linux, it's just that they're (mostly) indie games. Just be patient, even if developers of those games decided today to develop for linux (and not get blocked by their publishers), the switch would still take time.

+1000.

Step by Step. Years ago we had a few games like Tremulous, Urban Terror, Vdrift, Glest/Megaglest... now we can play things like Brutal Legend (purchased yesterday), Left 4 Dead 2 and future Valve Releases, Serious Sam BFE, Guns of Icarus, Trine 2...

Linux users now can choose between some titles to play under our favourite system. It's not about Linux/Windows competition, it's the fact that some developers want to bring us their games. I have very clear that I will purchase games from this people. EA or Activision last releases will not take my time/money, maybe only with PS2 titles at 5€... xD
rudeboyskunk 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 3:17 
librecookie eredeti hozzászólása:
Linux is not free of charge.

You paid for Linux? I've got this really nice bridge to sell you.
ThOR27 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 4:25 
Arziel eredeti hozzászólása:
The problem with new games being ported to Linux distros is that they require a lot of work.

Since Ubuntu (in this case) or any other Linux distro do not allow applications to directly control the Hardware resources, you can't have a new high end game like Crysis 3 running in Linux.

Unless you have a killing graphics card with huge amounts of RAM

The OS manages the resource distribution for the applications.

Not like Windows, where the applications just use the resources regardless of who else is using them, hence why it is a very vulnerable and easy to hack/pirate system.

This is totally FALSE.

ALL games on Windows and Linux use Operating System and other related libraries to work.

You CAN have high end game like Crysis 3 running on linux in the same way you can on Windows, you just need to port the engine.
Arziel1992 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 4:34 
Computer engineer here, so please, research it.
It isn't false.

Linux OS distribute the resources.
Windows let the apps directly use them.

I'm not talking about libraries, I'm talking about resources, CPU usage, RAM quantity, hardware, not software.
Arziel1992 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 4:36 
As I said, to run one of the newest games in Linux you need a lot of resources, hence why it's difficult to port them.
d10sfan 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 4:47 
Isn't the main issue the need to port those games from DirectX to OpenGL?

Games like L4D2 and others have been ported to Linux and run just fine.

Is Crysis 3 a big jump in resource-intensive from Crysis 2? Because I was able to run Crysis 2 through Wine just fine. If it runs through Wine, it would probably run native and better I would think.
instabilis 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 4:57 
Arziel eredeti hozzászólása:
Computer engineer here, so please, research it.
It isn't false.

Linux OS distribute the resources.
Windows let the apps directly use them.

I'm not talking about libraries, I'm talking about resources, CPU usage, RAM quantity, hardware, not software.
Maybe in the 80s, but these days we have pieces of software known as "operating systems" that manage hardware resources on behalf of software applications.
Arziel1992 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 5:00 
I used Crysis 3 as an example since it is a new game.
Porting from DirectX to OpenGL is not the big issue.

The problem is the requirements of the game, resources.

If you have a gaming PC then you'll be able to play new games without any problems.
If you have a standard PC and use Linux, you'll have some problems trying to run a new game, but if you install Windows in it then you can play easily.

As I said, most depends on hardware., since the OS's administrate it differently.

In the case of Wine, it's still an app running in Linux, so the OS assign resources to it to run.
What could be happening is that Wine is asking for a greater quantity of resources to run MS apps properly.

Also another issue with new games is that graphic drivers and it's providers (nvidia and amd) don't have full support for Linux systems yet, and what they have is very poor in some cases.

Until MS's stops dominating the market and people realize the Linux is a better way to go, driver support will still have more influence under Windows.

Just in recent years some people have been developing compatibility for Linux OS's.
Arziel1992 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 5:03 
instabilis eredeti hozzászólása:
Arziel eredeti hozzászólása:
Computer engineer here, so please, research it.
It isn't false.

Linux OS distribute the resources.
Windows let the apps directly use them.

I'm not talking about libraries, I'm talking about resources, CPU usage, RAM quantity, hardware, not software.
Maybe in the 80s, but these days we have pieces of software known as "operating systems" that manage hardware resources on behalf of software applications.

instabilis,

That's what I'm trying to say.
The Linux OS's distribute the resources on behalf software applications.
But Windows does not, or if it does, it isn't doing properly.

It let's applications use the resources freely without any control, that's why softwares can access huge amount of resources, that's why games run great under Windows.
instabilis 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 5:19 
How is Wine an example of how Linux based systems manage resources? Wine is an attempt to reverse engineer verious versions of the (mostly undocumented) Windows API exactly as it is (yes, including all the bugs), in an attempt to create a compatibility layer for verious other systems. Games don't run well in Wine because of Wine, not the operating system. If Wine worked as intended, then we wouldn't have the issue of developers not creating native ports to begin with... but then who would want to live in a world where Microsoft sets the standards.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: instabilis; 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 5:30
Arziel1992 2013. máj. 12. @ du. 5:25 
Wine is still an app that you install under Linux.
So the OS assigns resources to it like any other app.

Now that Wine is bad because of Wine, that's different, and yes, I agree with you that is bad.
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