Hagelslag Oct 24, 2013 @ 12:32am
Torvalds: SteamOS will "really help" Linux on desktop
Interesting read: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/384934/torvalds-steamos-will-really-help-linux-on-desktop


"I’m not just saying it’ll help us get traction with the graphics guys," he said. "It’ll also force different distributors to realise if this is how Steam is going, they need to do the same thing because they can’t afford to be different in this respect. They want people to play games on their platform too."

"It’s the best model for standardisation," he added. "I think good standards are people doing things, saying 'this is how we do it' and being successful enough to drive the market."
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Pk77 Oct 24, 2013 @ 1:33am 
Great, it's my hope too.
[Linux] Junior s2 Camila Oct 24, 2013 @ 2:04am 
Good! I really hope we get better than we are.

I'm dying to see those people who are against standards, they must be mad at themselves right now :D
sounds like a wooosh Oct 24, 2013 @ 3:58am 
This is a win-win situation for Steam as Linus Torvalds is a well respected person. While Steam is probably still investing in this project they also get great recognition of doing something innovative (again).

And people will begin to realize that it was not only 'Google' what's behind Android. It is indeed 'Linux' in the end. – Steam tries something similar now. It will indeed push Linux and Open Source as it makes this thing obvious and visible for everyone – even for managers that have never used a computer in their lifetime which was not running on a 'Windows' system…
123456789 Oct 24, 2013 @ 4:47am 
I'd love to hear what Cybertao has to say about this! :) Even Torvalds supports Linux standardisation. You were saying?
Doc Holliday Oct 24, 2013 @ 6:22am 
Originally posted by RAVEN MCCCXXXVII:
I'd love to hear what Cybertao has to say about this! :) Even Torvalds supports Linux standardisation. You were saying?
Linus is the leader in Linux standardisation
rudeboyskunk Oct 24, 2013 @ 7:07am 
The best three parts to come out of all of this:

1) Linux standardization
2) More people using Linux = more demand, better quality software
3) Drivers will improve dramatically
Doc Holliday Oct 24, 2013 @ 7:16am 
Originally posted by 루드보이스컹 리넉스:
The best three parts to come out of all of this:

1) Linux standardization
2) More people using Linux = more demand, better quality software
3) Drivers will improve dramatically

when nvidia and redhat get done with the kernel the gpu drivers are going to kick ♥♥♥

Linus Torvalds
"I love the Steam announcements – I think that's an opportunity to really help the desktop"
Jamie F Oct 24, 2013 @ 9:00am 
Originally posted by RAVEN MCCCXXXVII:
I'd love to hear what Cybertao has to say about this! :) Even Torvalds supports Linux standardisation. You were saying?

lol i know right....im sure he will argue that Linus Torvalds is wrong on that....
[Linux] Junior s2 Camila Oct 24, 2013 @ 9:03am 
Now let's hope more companies get their hands on Linux. We're still with only Valve on our side and we still need improvement. And lets not raise our hands yet, we all know that Torvalds can manage the Kernel (although I don't think he should be the only one, Linux should have a development like the BSD Kernel), but he saying things will not make Linux better, we need money and investment.
123456789 Oct 24, 2013 @ 9:16am 
Originally posted by Arch Linux - Junior s2 Camila:
Now let's hope more companies get their hands on Linux. We're still with only Valve on our side and we still need improvement. And lets not raise our hands yet, we all know that Torvalds can manage the Kernel (although I don't think he should be the only one, Linux should have a development like the BSD Kernel), but he saying things will not make Linux better, we need money and investment.

Not only that, but Linux above all needs users and the rest of the community, which we are all a part of.
Doc Holliday Oct 24, 2013 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by Arch Linux - Junior s2 Camila:
Now let's hope more companies get their hands on Linux. We're still only Valve on our side and we still need improvement. And lets not raise our hands yet, we all know that Torvalds can manage the Kernel (although I don't think he should be the only one, Linux should have a development like the BSD Kernel), but he saying things will not make Linux better, we need money and investment.

see i can tell you don't know a lot about the development of Linux, "money and investment" is all over Linux, in fact Linux, has more investment's into the development of it, than Microsoft Windows, by a long run also most of Microsofts money go to PR, AD's, and, buyouts also the same can be said for Canonical.


the funny part was Linus bashed on companies can any one say Mir?

"Linux is doing wonderfully well in so many different areas, but I still am somewhat disappointed about the fact that Linux desktop is this morass of in-fighting and people who do bad things,"

and, he also pointed out what needs done.

"I do hope the desktop people will try to work together, and work more on the technology than trying to make the login screen look really nice,"

and this my friends is why Linux has failed as a desktop
JoeyJoeJoe25 Oct 24, 2013 @ 9:21am 
Originally posted by 루드보이스컹 리넉스:
The best three parts to come out of all of this:

1) Linux standardization
2) More people using Linux = more demand, better quality software
3) Drivers will improve dramatically

As long as they aren't Canonical's standards, I'm all for standardization in Linux. Can't wait for Wayland to really take off.
Doc Holliday Oct 24, 2013 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by JoeyJoeJoe25:
Originally posted by 루드보이스컹 리넉스:
The best three parts to come out of all of this:

1) Linux standardization
2) More people using Linux = more demand, better quality software
3) Drivers will improve dramatically

As long as they aren't Canonical's standards, I'm all for standardization in Linux. Can't wait for Wayland to really take off.

haha there you go :)
[Linux] Junior s2 Camila Oct 24, 2013 @ 9:32am 
Yes, we need more users! :D


And I tell you, from the bottom of my heart, Linux should have like a great promotion, something that will DESTROY the chances of other communities.

Imagine if Valve developed Half-Life 3 as just-for-linux. The game would be just-fir-linux for 3 months and would have a 75% discount for who bought/play it on Linux. Then, after those 3 months, they release it with full-price on Windows.

Now, evidently after 3 months people who just went to Linux for HL3 would go back to Windows. That's why there should be more Linux promotions like this.

We all know how Windows got it's way to the top, and it's nasty. So, I think that promotions on Valve's store isn't something "unethical". They want Linux, they promote it, unless they think the desktop market isn't all that great after all.

Originally posted by Doc Holliday:
Originally posted by Arch Linux - Junior s2 Camila:
Now let's hope more companies get their hands on Linux. We're still only Valve on our side and we still need improvement. And lets not raise our hands yet, we all know that Torvalds can manage the Kernel (although I don't think he should be the only one, Linux should have a development like the BSD Kernel), but he saying things will not make Linux better, we need money and investment.

see i can tell you don't know a lot about the development of Linux, "money and investment" is all over Linux, in fact Linux, has more investment's into the development of it, than Microsoft Windows, by a long run also most of Microsofts money go to PR, AD's, and, buyouts also the same can be said for Canonical.


the funny part was Linus bashed on companies can any one say Mir?

"Linux is doing wonderfully well in so many different areas, but I still am somewhat disappointed about the fact that Linux desktop is this morass of in-fighting and people who do bad things,"

and, he also pointed out what needs done.

"I do hope the desktop people will try to work together, and work more on the technology than trying to make the login screen look really nice,"

and this my friends is why Linux has failed as a desktop
Money and investment is mostly on the KERNEL, which is the only part that is great and we know what it can do. The problem relies, as you said, on the duplicate of effort, people trying to make 1000000 things look nice when most of the time they don't function the same.

Who wouldn't bash on Mir? Mir is probably the most stupid decision on Canonical after Unity. It's a display server that almost nobody is willing to support.

Linux failed on the Desktop, but it's getting it's way to the top. We don't need monopoly, as Microsoft did. We have quality and if more companies come to Linux than we will have a much safer/better alternative than Microsoft can ever produce.

Imagine if more programs come to Linux. WHO would pay 300 dollars for a Windows when they can have the same software on Linux for free but with the advantages of not having to buy:

* Antivirus
* Anti-spyware
* A new windows license ever couple of years
UraniumDeer Oct 24, 2013 @ 9:59am 
Originally posted by Arch Linux - Junior s2 Camila:
Imagine if more programs come to Linux. WHO would pay 300 dollars for a Windows when they can have the same software on Linux for free but with the advantages of not having to buy:

* Antivirus
* Anti-spyware
* A new windows license ever couple of years

Agreed, though, the more users Linux-systems has, the more attempts there'll be at mal/spyware.
Opensource is genius though, since with the amount of eyes the code is available to, it COULD almost be faster to fix the security-issue, rather than having 3rd party software sticking a sock in it :P

In any case, it might be useful to have something monitor processes and communication, just to make sure that some unknowing user didn't allow a piece of malicious software root access, which shouldn't happen, if people sticks with the softwarecenters.
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