theDarkAhmet99 Mar 28, 2014 @ 3:31pm
Since the steam machine is running on steam os which is Linux based and non of the games i have works with Linux does this mean if a get steam machine i cant play any games
HELP
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R3450N Mar 28, 2014 @ 4:29pm 
Games with Linux ports only work under Linux; games devoid thereof can't. Steam OS is Linux-based, so it can only run games with Linux ports.
LOLCAT Mar 28, 2014 @ 5:42pm 
Originally posted by DarkAhmet99:
HELP
Of course it does. Steam is no charity, they want you to BUY games.
SamCoupe Mar 28, 2014 @ 6:52pm 
If you're keeping your windows PC around then you can always stream them to the steambox. Then the steambox just becomes an extender for the windows machine allowing you to play all your existing games in another room.
theDarkAhmet99 Mar 29, 2014 @ 12:45am 
thats sucks but if this is true why would any one buy the steam machine you just get less games.
UraniumDeer Mar 29, 2014 @ 2:27am 
Valve is doing what they can to get as many games ported as possible.
Who would use SteamOS, when all of the library is not supported? Consolegamers constantly buys a new console with no support for their previous games. There's likely many console gamers that has no Steam account, and no Steam games. While the range of games isn't awe-inspiring, it'll still allow you to upgrade/buy a new 'console', and play all the games you previously had with SteamOS. Also PC games tends to be quite a bit cheaper than console games. Valve also aim to bring the precision of PC games to the 'console', which could/should remove the pc- vs console-gamer gap.
Looking at some of the videos from SteamDev, it seems that it's a relatively small feat to port most (?) DX9 games to Linux, using Valves tools, layers n' stuff. Recently there was also Natural Selection 2 that made their HLSL to GLSL converter Open Source, as Valve did with all their tools and layers.
While SDL2 might not be as extensive and robust as DirectX, it's Open Source, and crossplatform, and it seems to require a lot less code.
All in all, it's starting to make a lot of sense, making future games crossplatform, and there's more and more documentation and help to get for porting games.
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Zyro Mar 29, 2014 @ 3:28am 
Originally posted by DarkAhmet99:
thats sucks but if this is true why would any one buy the steam machine you just get less games.

Why would anyone buy an XBox One, you can't play your old games on it...!
One moment, I think people do buy Xbox One nevertheless, right...?
theDarkAhmet99 Mar 29, 2014 @ 3:30am 
true

R3450N Mar 29, 2014 @ 3:40am 
Comparing Linux to Xbox One is much worse than Windows thereof. Suffice it to say that the launch of Linux on Steam is only over a year old and I think we are progressing well; yes it is a new platform for some developers and users and it's hard to jump when you've been on Windows for so long, but know that the user experience offered by Linux varies from OS to OS. Ubuntu/Linux Mint are great starting points, but you can also start on other OS' like Fedora or openSUSE which also aim to be user-friendly.
Cybertao Mar 29, 2014 @ 11:51am 
Install Windows on it.

You can, as it's really just a PC. All the games available for Linux are available on Windows, every future game available on Linux will also be available on Windows. Everything Valve sell is available for Windows.
Which begs the question of why anyone would ever bother with a Steambox when it's just a PC running your choice of Windows or Linux, and Valve fans will be horribly disappointed with Linux.
Zyro Mar 29, 2014 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by Cybertao:
Install Windows on it.

You can, as it's really just a PC. All the games available for Linux are available on Windows, every future game available on Linux will also be available on Windows. Everything Valve sell is available for Windows.
Which begs the question of why anyone would ever bother with a Steambox when it's just a PC running your choice of Windows or Linux, and Valve fans will be horribly disappointed with Linux.

Many people seem to prefer machines where they do not need to install an OS.
Xbox and Playstation again serve as an example here:
In core, it's PC hardware that cannot run any Windows game.
Still people buy it.
Cybertao Mar 29, 2014 @ 2:50pm 
Your argument doesn't do the Steambox any favours. It makes for an inferior console compared to the competition; over-priced and under-supported.
Zyro Mar 29, 2014 @ 3:09pm 
It has got more games than the new consoles and I wonder how you can judge the support before even one steam machine has been released.
R3450N Mar 29, 2014 @ 3:36pm 
Cybertao is prejudging Steam machines insofar he should wait before passing judgement.
stasis Mar 29, 2014 @ 3:46pm 
Originally posted by Cybertao:
Your argument doesn't do the Steambox any favours. It makes for an inferior console compared to the competition; over-priced and under-supported.

Are you aware that with just a little bit of extra technical know-how you can basically run any PC game on a steam machine?

I'm not even talking about streaming (which is another feature that will be available as well)
But valve is allowing people to install any OS they want on these steam machines, so you can always put windows on it and run the windows client of steam (you could even run non-steam games). I'm sure you could even dual boot.
Unless they change their minds about these things, it will basically just be like buying a small "portable" PC preinstalled with steamOS. (that's basically all any console is.. Except most don't allow you to modify them or run other games like the steam machines will)

and the price of the steam machines is lower by using SteamOS because windows isn't free.
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Cybertao Mar 29, 2014 @ 4:10pm 
Originally posted by mearo:
Are you aware that with just a little bit of extra technical know-how you can basically run any PC game on a steam machine?
Yeah. That's why I said earlier in the thread:
Originally posted by cybertao:
Install Windows on it.

So what's your point? Your argument doesn't do the Steambox any favours either. Compared to a PC, it's just another PC only you have to buy and install Windows for it.
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