Steam for Linux

Steam for Linux

Zyro Jun 19, 2014 @ 5:22am
If you want to vote for gaming on Linux with your wallet, e. g. in the upcoming Steam sale...
... mind the following post:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/8930/discussions/0/540743758002415316/#c540743757991860509

So it's best for accounted Linux sales if you buy and play on Linux in the first weeks after buying. So..
* buy using Linux client and
* play on Linux, best only on Linux, in the first weeks.
This implies...
* do not buy games that just because they are expected to come some day on Linux,
* only buy games that do have a decent Tux icon on the shop site right now.
Of course this all only applies if you can afford to possibly not buy in the sale cheap now but perhaps more expensive later.
Last edited by Zyro; Jun 19, 2014 @ 5:23am
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Kerberizer Jun 19, 2014 @ 9:26am 
Good point!

One thing that I wonder though, is whether the two conditions -- what platform you buy the game from and what platform you play the game on -- are connected with a logical AND or a logical OR. It matters, especially during sales, because people don't always have the time to play their new games right away, especially if they bought quite a bunch. As a somewhat extreme example, there are games in my collection that I've never even run once -- the reason I bought them was simply to support game development on Linux.

In that context, my impression from Aspyr's words is that what matters in the first place -- and is actually enough on its own -- is the platform you buy the game from. Playing the game afterwards during the first month can change where the money goes, but is not strictly necessary -- unless you do want to make this change, that is.

In other words, to support Linux, it's enough to buy the game from the Linux client and then simply don't play it on Windows (or Mac) during the first month; but it shouldn't otherwise matter whether you do play it on Linux or don't play it at all.

Now, if for some reason you purchased the game from Windows (or from Wine, for that matter, I guess), then, if you want the developers of the Linux port to get their money, it does become necessary to also run and play the game under Linux during that first month (the money would otherwise go to the developer of the Windows version).

Again, that's my personal interpretation of those comments, so I'd be glad to hear other opinions as well.

And one more thing that probably deserves to be noted: all of the above should matter even for those games with a single developer for both the Windows and the Linux version. Sure, the money goes to the same people no matter whether you bought and played the game on Windows or on Linux, but it still makes a difference from what market the money comes.

After all, if the developer sees too little money coming from Linux, they may reconsider supporting the platform in the future (it does cost money to develop a Linux port). On the other hand, if they see most of their income coming from Linux, they may as well decide to drop the Windows support...

Haha, just kidding here, but you never know what'll happen in, say, another 10 years. ;)
Last edited by Kerberizer; Jun 19, 2014 @ 9:27am
Zyro Jun 19, 2014 @ 9:57am 
I agree to all of what you're saying. When a game is sold, some day the money has to go somewhere and the sold item must be accounted for. So I agree to your guessing that if it's sold for Linux and not played at all, there's no alternative to counting it as Linux sell. And yes, this might be important especially at a Steam sale. :o)
Last edited by Zyro; Jun 19, 2014 @ 10:37am
MadXav Jun 19, 2014 @ 6:12pm 
These are very interesting points that GNU/Linux users need to consider if they want to support Linux games and the guys who ports them.
Mohandevir Nov 26, 2014 @ 11:25am 
So if I buy a game when I'm not home, on a windows pc, through the web browser, and then install it on my Linux pc to play, later, when I'm home, it's going to count as a Windows sale? What if I buy it through my cell phone?

For my part, only the download and/or the play time should count.
Last edited by Mohandevir; Nov 26, 2014 @ 11:30am
retro_Ed Nov 26, 2014 @ 12:02pm 
When purchasing multi platform game there should be checkbox to choose which platform to support. After purchasing it is my decision how i want to play and in which platform, LINUX ,win or apple....
Zyro Nov 26, 2014 @ 12:34pm 
Originally posted by Mohandevir:
So if I buy a game when I'm not home, on a windows pc, through the web browser, and then install it on my Linux pc to play, later, when I'm home, it's going to count as a Windows sale? What if I buy it through my cell phone?

The linked post by Linux developers says all I know about it:
Purchases made on another platform (Windows for example) will default payment to that platform BUT if you play it on Linux for the first few weeks, the system will recognize that you are actually a Linux user and shift a portion or all of the payment to the Linux developer.

So it might end up fine if you buy on Windows, but soon start playing for enough time on Linux.
But if you care, I wouldn't do that if avoidable.
I88I Dec 20, 2014 @ 6:34pm 
Shame on me!

I buy and play on GNU/Linux only. But I mostly buy on sales. My fault, I know that.
sr_ls_boy Dec 20, 2014 @ 6:57pm 
It's actually a tighter window than a month. You should play your game within one week if you bought it by any other means than your linux client. This was discussed at gamingonlinux.
I88I Dec 20, 2014 @ 7:00pm 
/me is going to play it all instantly from now on! And not gonna buy via other means.
Maleko Dec 20, 2014 @ 10:12pm 
Originally posted by Zyro:
Originally posted by Mohandevir:
So if I buy a game when I'm not home, on a windows pc, through the web browser, and then install it on my Linux pc to play, later, when I'm home, it's going to count as a Windows sale? What if I buy it through my cell phone?

The linked post by Linux developers says all I know about it:
Purchases made on another platform (Windows for example) will default payment to that platform BUT if you play it on Linux for the first few weeks, the system will recognize that you are actually a Linux user and shift a portion or all of the payment to the Linux developer.

So it might end up fine if you buy on Windows, but soon start playing for enough time on Linux.
But if you care, I wouldn't do that if avoidable.

Here's Aspyr's answer from their Reddit AMA:

Question; I've heard that you guys only get paid for a cut of future sales. Can you confirm or deny that?

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[–]Aspyr_Blair 118 points 6 months ago

I'll chime in here so Ian can focus on technical questions.

Yes, that is correct. Aspyr gets paid on new or future purchases of the Linux and Mac versions of Civ V. If you purchases the game on Windows say...5 months ago...then the PC publisher/developer was paid for that transaction (as they should be). Essentially, Steam knows what platform you are on through the client and processes payment to the developer accordingly.

Lots of fans are worried that if they purchase through a browser or a PC at work for example, that we wont get compensated. As long as you play the game on your Linux or Mac in the first week or so and stay on that platform for your play, the payment will then shift over to us as the Linux publisher/developer.

Hope that makes sense!

Maleko Dec 20, 2014 @ 10:16pm 
Originally posted by I88I:
Shame on me!

I buy and play on GNU/Linux only. But I mostly buy on sales. My fault, I know that.

Where's the shame in that? You're buying Linux games and playing them on Linux. It doesn't matter if you buy during a sale or not, the publisher/dev make the amount agreed on with Valve. When there is a sale Valve takes a loss but makes up for it by selling more copies.
Zyro Dec 21, 2014 @ 1:02am 
Originally posted by Ghost:
It doesn't matter if you buy during a sale or not, the publisher/dev make the amount agreed on with Valve. When there is a sale Valve takes a loss but makes up for it by selling more copies.

I can very hardly imagine that. Source?
boa50 Dec 21, 2014 @ 3:13am 
I always try to buy games that are compatible with linux, but I don't have time to play them :(
Zyro Dec 21, 2014 @ 3:14am 
Originally posted by boa50:
I always try to buy games that are compatible with linux, but I don't have time to play them :(

:D same here, at the moment, I've got more games waiting to be played than time, and I would buy some others if I'd see any chance to play them in the next weeks.
Last edited by Zyro; Dec 21, 2014 @ 3:52am
I88I Dec 21, 2014 @ 8:52am 
Originally posted by boa50:
I always try to buy games that are compatible with linux, but I don't have time to play them :(
I bet buying and playing 15 minutes will be fine.
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