Magic Cards Jun 15 @ 1:00am
Why Doesn't Valve offer to port games to Linux for Free?
My argument is it will benefit both Valve and the game developers. Sure it will cost Valve money, but in the long run with Steam Machines it might be worth it. Plus fans will go all ,"OMG Valve is the Best!" and all that. So I say why not? Want to get gaming on Linux, take the initiative and do it, one game at a time. And no, this does not mean game dev's must get lazy.
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Kargor Jun 15 @ 1:06am 
Sure, not only do they get sourcecode for the games, they are also expected to sink all that money into the game FOR FREE?

And how exactly does "looking cool" to some Linux fanboys benefit them, when all the rest of the world are "OMG are they stupid"?
Black Blade Jun 15 @ 1:07am 
First porting a game is not easy or a fast task
Second think abut it that many game Dev base game on some mechanics of older games like there engines.. and to port means they need to give the source code of the game to Valve.. that is abut like giving the keys to your house to some company.. that can use it how ever they want

Also you are asking Valve that never mess with that code to get into a code they never seen have no clue how its build and just rebuild it..

Over all Devs are not lazy that they do not port.. port is a long expensive work most of the time and a fast look at the state page of Steam (HERE) you can see only 1.10% of all Steam users abut that taken the servery use Linux base OS.. so how worth it you think to do it for a Dev?
Lostedge Jun 15 @ 1:11am 
Valve ports their own games: like half-life 2 and so on. They will not port games that they have nothing to do with it. That would be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Magic Cards Jun 15 @ 1:21am 
Ok so maybe not for free, but they need some reason to get devs onto Linux. At the moment it looks like OpenGL is worse than Direct X so can't they work on that? WINE is also a great alternative, but it has some usablilty problems from what I understand. Couldn't they help with that too (UI mostly)? Also if you are looking at it in terms of current stats in terms of Linux users you are looking at it wrong. With the release of the Steam Machine those figures will rise. It is up to Valve and the game dev's to make them rise beyond 1 or 2%. And no I, don't think they will call Valve stupid for porting 1 game from each dev for free. No company on Earth would ever do that, except a company trying to look good in front of it's fans and other people. It sends a "we care" kind of message.
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Fork_Q2 Jun 15 @ 1:21am 
Valve aren't in the porting business. You either make your own games, or port other people's. Conflict of interest.
Black Blade Jun 15 @ 1:30am 
Originally posted by MagicCards:
Ok so maybe not for free, but they need some reason to get devs onto Linux. At the moment it looks like OpenGL is worse than Direct X so can't they work on that? WINE is also a great alternative, but it has some usablilty problems from what I understand. Couldn't they help with that too (UI mostly)? Also if you are looking at it in terms of current stats in terms of Linux users you are looking at it wrong. With the release of the Steam Machine those figures will rise. It is up to Valve and the game dev's to make them rise beyond 1 or 2%. And no I, don't think they will call Valve stupid for porting 1 game from each dev for free. No company on Earth would ever do that, except a company trying to look good in front of it's fans and other people. It sends a "we care" kind of message.
No they will be called crazy.. its a crazy move on soo many levels..
As its lots of work.. that cost lot of money and is not easy what so ever...

I am special on how many will really get a SteamBox when it come out... so i do not think that will rise the numbers so much..

What is true i do think Dev will start to port more of there games to Linux over time.. but i do not think Valve will do it..
And even more i really do not think the Dev will allow them to do it
Magic Cards Jun 15 @ 1:34am 
This is just my opinion (I am a Linux Fan and Steam Machine Fan). All your arguments do have merits. Mine was just wishful thinking because I really want to see more games on Linux and I don't know what they are doing to get that going.
Black Blade Jun 15 @ 1:36am 
Originally posted by MagicCards:
This is just my opinion (I am a Linux Fan and Steam Machine Fan). All your arguments do have merits. Mine was just wishful thinking because I really want to see more games on Linux and I don't know what they are doing to get that going.
Well first they made SteamOS to get that going
Second of all i like that to happen as well.. i really will like to move to linux in some point.. but of now much of my software is Windows base so i cant do so, not for these time..

Over all i think the best that can be done is to try to talk to Dev and show there many users that will more likey get there games if they just set it to linux
Fork_Q2 Jun 15 @ 3:15am 
Originally posted by MagicCards:
This is just my opinion (I am a Linux Fan and Steam Machine Fan). All your arguments do have merits. Mine was just wishful thinking because I really want to see more games on Linux and I don't know what they are doing to get that going.

But why would Valve be any better than any of the existing companies that offer to do ports? As said before, Valve are in the business of making games too, not going to create an lot of trust with publishers.
Magic Cards Jun 15 @ 3:25am 
Wait, there are other companies porting games? Who, I must know (AAA devs only).
Fork_Q2 Jun 15 @ 3:33am 
Originally posted by MagicCards:
Wait, there are other companies porting games? Who, I must know (AAA devs only).

Companies that offer ports aren't massive AAA devs, there simply isn't the demand for this, but guys like Ryan Gordon has been doing Linux ports for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_C._Gordon

More to the point, they don't make their own games, they just port existing ones.

Besides, Linux isn't really an investment Valve intends to get a return on, it's really there to stop MS from giving up on PC gaming or enforcing a "walled garden" approach. If Valve did offer free porting to everyone, they'd go bankrupt.
Satoru Jun 15 @ 6:39am 
Originally posted by ⠀Equanox:
Best thing Valve could do is fork OpenGL or better yet rebuild it from scratch so developers finally have a useful, up-to-date, well-maintained API for Linux.

There's no point in forking or making an entirely new API for that. OPenGL is already incredibly robust. It's up to devs to plan for Mac/Linux support. Making your own API doesnt' magically solve that problem.
LOLCAT Jun 15 @ 8:49am 
Originally posted by MagicCards:
Why Doesn't Valve offer to port games to Linux for Free?
Why don't you? Everyone loves to work for free...
Magic Cards Jun 15 @ 12:29pm 
LOLCAT, if I could I would.
¾ Jun 15 @ 5:08pm 
Because ♥♥♥♥ cost money you know ?
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