whystler Jun 5, 2014 @ 8:35am
Linux downloads choking!
[EDIT] After seeing the reactions here, and watching the progress of a download, i decided to experiment a little and enable client side throtling, settign it to 1Mb/s. This greatly improved the stability of the download, so i'm now assuming that it is possible for a download to come in TOO fast, causing the process to bog down. Title changed accordingly.
Last edited by whystler; Jun 6, 2014 @ 11:59am
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LOLCAT Jun 5, 2014 @ 10:01am 
You have a very strange definition of fact. Not sure where you live, but I live in a small, eastern europen country, and even here I have no issues downloading at 100mbps (you read that right). If you expect gigabit speeds, you might be right, but making such an advanced nework costs a lot, even for Valve.
whystler Jun 5, 2014 @ 10:16am 
100mbps would be great, but it usually drops to below 60kbps on Linux. Tried multiple distros, so it isn't the settings, and on Windows i clock 100Mb on average.

No conclusive answer about it on google, but some talk about a low QoS redirect and throttling, so that appears to be the reason i get such horrible download speeds even during off peak.

Of course no statement from Valve on the matter either (either confirming such speeds are some obscure configuration issue that hits a specific combination of hardware, or confirming they are throttling for whatever reason), so i would appreaciate such a statement.
Jakari [TsX] Jun 5, 2014 @ 10:57am 
I have the same problem, I currently download from the manchester server (UK) and get 11Mbps but on Linux (Currently Mint 17) I get around 3-6Mbps also seems to loose connection throughout the download
-FwG- ^ Bucky Jun 5, 2014 @ 11:04am 
I used to have the same problem, I "resolved" it by changing my Internet/network settings to automatic instead of manual (I need to figure out how to set it manually again). But Steam downloads weren't the only thing that were being slow.
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sounds like a wooosh Jun 5, 2014 @ 11:05am 
This has been reported by several people over time. I personally can not confirm it. It will most probably be a local thing?
whystler Jun 5, 2014 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by sounds like a wooosh:
This has been reported by several people over time. I personally can not confirm it. It will most probably be a local thing?

Yes, reported regularly, never reliably resolved, or explained though, and Valve has never reasponded to it too.

I'm think at least some regional servers throttle based on client type.
c☢re meltd☢wn Jun 5, 2014 @ 11:37am 
This could be happening because the Windows version is already cached at a near server but still less popular Linix version not.
whystler Jun 5, 2014 @ 11:40am 
Could be, so why aren't they just telling us this? Valve is keeping hush hush about it.
-FwG- ^ Bucky Jun 5, 2014 @ 1:57pm 
It doesn't make sense for it to be deliberate, especially considering that SteamOS is based on Debian and how much they've embraced Linux with open arms. I seriously think this is a local issue probably with your ethernet card.
whystler Jun 5, 2014 @ 3:35pm 
Originally posted by -FwG- ^ Player:
It doesn't make sense for it to be deliberate, especially considering that SteamOS is based on Debian and how much they've embraced Linux with open arms. I seriously think this is a local issue probably with your ethernet card.

If it was my card or my connection, i would suffer from it on the Windows side too. If it was an issue between my card and Linux, i would see my Internet speed test also drop. Neither has happened. Itś a Steam vs Linux specific problem and my Google attempts on the issue didn't reveal any clear indication on what it could be, other than possibly throtling.

I agree with you that it wouldn make any sense though.
Last edited by whystler; Jun 5, 2014 @ 3:36pm
c☢re meltd☢wn Jun 5, 2014 @ 3:47pm 
ISP's do all sort's of tricks to avoid external traffic, because that would cost them. One is to keep content which many of their users want in a caching proxy. This boosts download speed for this content a lot. There is no conspiracy against Linux users, it's a simple matter of popularity.
phillippi2 Jun 5, 2014 @ 7:51pm 
I think it's most likely your isp. Although, it could also could be your network card driver. Are you using the driver that came with linux or one provided by the card's brand?
-FwG- ^ Bucky Jun 5, 2014 @ 8:24pm 
Originally posted by whystler:
Originally posted by -FwG- ^ Player:
It doesn't make sense for it to be deliberate, especially considering that SteamOS is based on Debian and how much they've embraced Linux with open arms. I seriously think this is a local issue probably with your ethernet card.

If it was my card or my connection, i would suffer from it on the Windows side too. If it was an issue between my card and Linux, i would see my Internet speed test also drop. Neither has happened. Itś a Steam vs Linux specific problem and my Google attempts on the issue didn't reveal any clear indication on what it could be, other than possibly throtling.

I agree with you that it wouldn make any sense though.
Try inclusively forwarding TCP ports 27014-27050, those are ports dedicated for Steam downloads.
Fibbles Jun 6, 2014 @ 7:10am 
Originally posted by c☢re meltd☢wn:
This could be happening because the Windows version is already cached at a near server but still less popular Linix version not.


Originally posted by c☢re meltd☢wn:
ISP's do all sort's of tricks to avoid external traffic, because that would cost them. One is to keep content which many of their users want in a caching proxy. This boosts download speed for this content a lot. There is no conspiracy against Linux users, it's a simple matter of popularity.


QFT.
DerRidda Jun 6, 2014 @ 11:00am 
Couldn't be more different for me. The Windows version is horribly bad at downloading at good speeds or even continuously for me whereas the Linux version always gets good speeds and uninterrupted downloads.
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