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Grimcreaper Jan 15, 2013 @ 11:16pm
Towns: Steam featured game <3
So, obviously Valve believes Towns is good game. What do you people crying for a refund have to say about that? Towns has been in the Featured Game list now for 2 weeks.

Valve 1, Consumers who dont look at what their putting their money into 0.


On another note, Thank you Towns devs for the work you have put into the game. I hope things go well enough in real life to allow you to continue development of the game in a timely manner.

<3 a person who is learning to enjoy Towns more and more every day, even with some of the AI flaws. (RIP 13 townsfolk who just HAD to cut wood until they die :( )
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Mumboejumboh Jan 16, 2013 @ 12:21am 
Well, I would say that you're being kind of a jerk while also completely disregarding the fact that Towns still has serious flaws that haven't at all been dealt with since the game has been launched...well, at least not dealt with by the developers. I'd also say that you're just baiting people to flame you because you honestly kind of come off as being snobby when you're defending the game.

Maybe you're not a snob or a jerk or anything like that, but Towns still has some serious problems going on. It doesn't really matter where Steam shows it off.
Grimcreaper Jan 16, 2013 @ 12:49am 
I have never disputed that it has some major flaws. I really hope they do get patched, i think we just need to give it some time. And yeah, this was partially a flame-bait just to see and also a show that Valve seems to have some faith in the game and company.

Now, for some really serious stuff. I know there are huge flaws, and sadly it is killing my want to play this game at all. But i realize that some very serious issues came up regarding the main coder so i dont expect anything solid for atleast another month and as such will be putting this game aside until such a time as the most glaring bugs are fixed.

For those who feel they got cheated: I am honestly sorry you feel this way. Yes the game has problems, no im not gonna say Suck it Up like i usually do (the fail-troll i am most of the time. Fail being the key component). You are entitled to your opinion and way of thinking. All i ask is that you give the 2 devs a little more time to finish getting things sorted out.

For those who feel they got what they payed for: Im sure the devs thank you for your attitude and time, and hopefully will make good on many of our hopes and dreams with the game in time.

Mumbo: Time and again you have responded to me in a fairly cool-headed way when i didnt deserve it, as did another guy, cant think of his name. Thank you for that. You are a better person than I.
Mumboejumboh Jan 16, 2013 @ 1:24am 
Yeah, I try to be as even-handed as I can with this sort of stuff on the internet since it's so easy for text to be misinterpreted. Mainly for myself (and at least partly for most others) one of the big problems with this whole situation is how poorly the launch has been handled.

The guy responsible for the game's art goes on vacation when the game launches while Xavi (at least speculating according to his own post) has had to deal with his wife having cancer since the launch. It seems like nobody really knew about Xavi's situation until just over a week into the new year, despite it being a big event in his life for "some months". Were it not for such a large failure in communication across the board, I can't help but think a lot of people would be dealing with the state that Towns is in a lot better.
mr bigdad Jan 16, 2013 @ 6:27am 
OMG another flamer fanboy. Just looking at your avatar shows me your state. Have fun with your game and your faith in the devs. I sure dont believe them untill they prove me wrong. Untill that time I wont bother even to defend them. What them, its a him. The other dude is nowhere to be found.
Solo Solitaire Jan 16, 2013 @ 9:53am 
Valve has faith in money. None of us know how they feel about the game.
Sensuna Jan 17, 2013 @ 8:44am 
You are far more optimistic than I am.

As far as cutting the two developers a break and give them more time, when do you draw the line? As others have pointed out, it's been over nine weeks since the launch. Nine weeks. If that isn't enough time to get atleast /some/ form of a patch out, I obviously know nothing about video games.

I hate being this cynical about games, honestly I do. Every time I think about this, I end up leaning further into the thought that this was just one giant hose job from a developer who didn't really care that much about doing a professional job. They were hobbyists, who got too deep.
JackPS9 Jan 17, 2013 @ 1:07pm 
Some people are giving them to the end of the month to pump out a update.
Grimcreaper Jan 17, 2013 @ 1:39pm 
Originally posted by Sensuna:
You are far more optimistic than I am.

As far as cutting the two developers a break and give them more time, when do you draw the line? As others have pointed out, it's been over nine weeks since the launch. Nine weeks. If that isn't enough time to get atleast /some/ form of a patch out, I obviously know nothing about video games.

I hate being this cynical about games, honestly I do. Every time I think about this, I end up leaning further into the thought that this was just one giant hose job from a developer who didn't really care that much about doing a professional job. They were hobbyists, who got too deep.


If you had done a little looking into the matter, you would know that the main coder is taking care of his wife who was recieving chemo treatments for cancer. For anyone who hasnt dealt with chemo, it is an excrutiating process that usually leaves the person almost completely unable to care for themselves. Constantly being sick, feeling extremely week, unable to do much on your own. Its a very hard process on the body. I would honestly give Towns until march for a patch or atleast some solid info from the dev showing what hes doing, just to give him and his wife time to recuperate.

In his situation, i would be doing that same thing for the most part. Only thing i would do differently is communicate a bit more and eariler so people know whats going on.





Originally posted by mr bigdad:
OMG another flamer fanboy. Just looking at your avatar shows me your state. Have fun with your game and your faith in the devs. I sure dont believe them untill they prove me wrong. Untill that time I wont bother even to defend them. What them, its a him. The other dude is nowhere to be found.

What the hell does my avatar have to do with anything? It came from a rather hilarious thread on Something Awful, the Amalgoon thread. It has nothing to do with being a "flamer fanboy" so kindly stay out. I would say get out but you havnt made any other responses.
Sensuna Jan 17, 2013 @ 8:31pm 
Originally posted by Grimcreaper:


If you had done a little looking into the matter, you would know that the main coder is taking care of his wife who was recieving chemo treatments for cancer. For anyone who hasnt dealt with chemo, it is an excrutiating process that usually leaves the person almost completely unable to care for themselves. Constantly being sick, feeling extremely week, unable to do much on your own. Its a very hard process on the body. I would honestly give Towns until march for a patch or atleast some solid info from the dev showing what hes doing, just to give him and his wife time to recuperate.

In his situation, i would be doing that same thing for the most part. Only thing i would do differently is communicate a bit more and eariler so people know whats going on.

First off, you assume I didn't read that.

Secondly, you assume that I haven't had to deal with a loved one going through treatment for cancer. I have, and while it was tough it didn't consume all of my time. I was able to fulfill other obligations (work, exc.) and do other things. Focusing my energy on other things instead of dwelling on the cancer actually /helped/ me get through the whole experience.

That said, I am skeptical that he is not capable of finding any time to do any development.
Grimcreaper Jan 17, 2013 @ 10:07pm 
Considering we dont know the extent of the cancer or the specific type of treatment used, it is hard to say just how functional his wife is. Certain very aggressive treatments can leave a person so absolutely battered that they need someone in attendance 24/7. Just some food for thought. So far the only thing we know is that she was doing weekly treatments, which means its a fairly aggressive treatment.
Myrkana Jan 17, 2013 @ 10:46pm 
at the same time while the cancer his wife has is horrible and all if he knew she had this and that his development schedule would be offset by it because of her needs he should never have agreed to the steam release yet.... Gnomoria is approved by greenlight all ready but won't be releasing for a while because it's not ready (and it's far more developed than towns is) and the people making it don't want to release a half ♥♥♥♥♥ game to the steam community :/
Grimcreaper Jan 17, 2013 @ 10:49pm 
Im willing to bet he may have released it early to help offset the costs of treatment. Some may say it would be shady, but most would do the same :(


Absolute speculation on my part. Dont take it as fact becuase i do NOT know for certain, only stating thats exactly what i would have done. I would just have been more upfront with the community though.
Mumboejumboh Jan 18, 2013 @ 2:12am 
Originally posted by Grimcreaper:
Im willing to bet he may have released it early to help offset the costs of treatment. Some may say it would be shady, but most would do the same :(

I can almost understand this point, but he must have had some inkling as to just how bad the backlash might be if he not only released an incomplete product but then just left it alone for about two and a half months now. Especially considering that he hasn't really been keeping people abreast of the situation. I wouldn't have demanded daily updates or anything, but letting folks know what was going on (preferably before the situation was going on for months) would have helped them be more understanding, even if the situation itself would still be completely mucked up.
Grimcreaper Jan 18, 2013 @ 2:59am 
Yeah i do agree there. We will just have to wait and see how things play out eventually. Im keeping my hopes up for everything to work themselves out though.
currymuncher Jan 18, 2013 @ 6:23am 
i have to laugh at some of you people.You complain about a game that is not to bad, few bugs that need fixing and has a dev team of erm 2.wtf do you expect for £10 . people waited 10 years for diablo 3 and its still not been sorted out and how many are in there dev team.your problem is that your a bunch of spoiled brats that demand demand demand.was a day you bought a game and if it was crap tough luck.updates,fixes and dlc to cater for your needs.there were enough posts about this games bugs even before it was given full release on steam, so you all had an oppertunity to check it out before you parted with your hard earned money from mummy and daddy.as has been said the main dev wife has just been found out to have cancer.how f**kin dare you complain about a stupid ♥♥♥♥♥ic game fix while the the guy and his fanily are going through hell.thats right he should be sorting his game out instead of being at wife s side through this terrible time . you should all be ashamed of yourselves.i am not a gamefan of this game only bought on steam as was on sale.so i got stung for £6 for a buggy game.♥♥♥♥ happens.stop complaining.know i will get slated here for such strong words,but if you think dealing with a games program is more important than family and freinds ,well that probably says more than words could describe.
i will agree with you on one point the launch was very poorly handled and should have been taken out of the hands while the siyuation on his private life was sorted .maybe steam should take a shoulder the blame on this.they were ones who launched it to the steam community
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