Chronic Oct 26, 2012 @ 11:40am
Straw vs. Grass vs. Hay vs. Chaff vs. Silage
Ok, so I'm a bit confused about all these different things. This is my understanding so far:

Straw: left over from wheat and barley harvest. Can be put into bales.
Grass: left over from cutting grass areas
Hay: can be made using a "tedder" to dry cut grass
Chaff: can be made using a special harvester
Silage: ??

My questions are:
1) since straw can be made into bales, and hay can be made into bales, is there any difference after they're in bale form?
2) Grass: what's with the little dump piles in the golf course and camping ground? Is that just a place to dump it after cutting it? Can I pick it up again, and what will it be used for if I do?
3) Can chaff only be made from corn, or can I make it from any type of plant?
4) What gets dumped in the concrete bunkers, and then compacted? What does it become after it's compacted and sits there a while?
5) which of these five types of material do I feed the cows?

Lots of questions, I know, but I appreciate any answers.
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Zombie Oct 26, 2012 @ 12:37pm 
straw is dry grass. Hay is left over from wheat/barely Chaff is chopped corn (a.k.a silage) if i remember right

You can turn grass to dry it and then you can bale dry grass

I believe you can use the special harvester to make the wheat/barley into silage not sure

For cows/sheep you use a forage wagon to collect grass and put in grass feeding trough. Chaff you put in silage bin. by cow/sheep field for feeding. Also you can use a feed mixer by putting baled dry grass and hay into mixer then adding the silage to make a mixed feed to put in the mix feed trough. You can also get a hay spread which you put baled hay in and it spreads the hay in the hay barn (where the mixed feed trough is)

the chaff/silage can also be taken to bio-gas plant compressed fermented then you need a front end loader to put in the gas plant input. Gas plant process it (you get money for it) and then there is liquid manure that ends up being a waste product that gets stored in the tank there that you can take and use on fields.

as far as the dump piles i think you can use the fork truck w/ forks to pick grass not sure.
Kage Sendo Oct 26, 2012 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by Zombie:
straw is dry grass. Hay is left over from wheat/barely Chaff is chopped corn (a.k.a silage) if i remember right

You can turn grass to dry it and then you can bale dry grass

I believe you can use the special harvester to make the wheat/barley into silage not sure

For cows/sheep you use a forage wagon to collect grass and put in grass feeding trough. Chaff you put in silage bin. by cow/sheep field for feeding. Also you can use a feed mixer by putting baled dry grass and hay into mixer then adding the silage to make a mixed feed to put in the mix feed trough. You can also get a hay spread which you put baled hay in and it spreads the hay in the hay barn (where the mixed feed trough is)

the chaff/silage can also be taken to bio-gas plant compressed fermented then you need a front end loader to put in the gas plant input. Gas plant process it (you get money for it) and then there is liquid manure that ends up being a waste product that gets stored in the tank there that you can take and use on fields.

as far as the dump piles i think you can use the fork truck w/ forks to pick grass not sure.

Nice informative post!

Although you do have straw and grass backwards, hay is dry grass and straw is left over from harvesting wheat/barley.
Kidlin619 Oct 26, 2012 @ 1:07pm 
Can you not plant corn?
Zombie Oct 26, 2012 @ 1:17pm 
corn is maize and if you use the normal combine with the corn head you get normal corn only. You can only get the chaff if you use the special combine
Kage Sendo Oct 26, 2012 @ 2:04pm 
Originally posted by Zombie:
corn is maize and if you use the normal combine with the corn head you get normal corn only. You can only get the chaff if you use the special combine
You can also use the Pottinger Mex 6 pull behind harvester to chop corn into chaff, and at 46K its cheap enough to use if your just starting out.
Last edited by Kage Sendo; Oct 26, 2012 @ 2:05pm
Kidlin619 Oct 26, 2012 @ 3:16pm 
how do you plant corn though? there is no option in my seeder to plant it
Zombie Oct 26, 2012 @ 3:26pm 
there is a seperate seeder for corn/sugar beets there is only the one seeder for em,
Kidlin619 Oct 26, 2012 @ 3:28pm 
oh ok thank you
wulimaster [MG] Oct 27, 2012 @ 9:34am 
Silage is harvested from cutting corn whole, and not harvesting it. Also with the XDisk attachment for the big Krone harvester, you can make silage from grass, and it ends up acting like corn silage and not hay.
eagleFMJ Oct 27, 2012 @ 7:17pm 
Should I make bails and sell them or just sell the straw by itsself, whats better?

eagle
Ker Oct 27, 2012 @ 8:33pm 
Anyone knows which trailer fits behind the Pottinger Mex 6 ? I found one that worked and it was one with only one wheel Krampe Big Body 500 (real small bin) , bought a bigger one ( Krampe Big Body 650) but can't seem to attach it , no idea if it's because im not alligned well or only rare trailers work i'm not really rich so try/error to find one that fits kinda blows
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Saintanik Oct 27, 2012 @ 11:04pm 
I found this on the official forums:
"The chopper can only pull trailers which are not attached low. as far as i know that are only the Krampe BBE 500, the Kröger HKD 302 and the Krone Emsland."

by 'chopper' I'm pretty sure he was referring to the Mex 6.. not entirely sure what 'attached low' means, I guess you have to see the trailers for it to make sense.. I'm still on the starter trailer ;)
«PE» Rowen Windsong Oct 27, 2012 @ 11:08pm 
If the trailer have a yellow shaft on it that needs to be connected to a tractor as it is a PTO, the Krone can only pull non PTO trailers.
Saintanik Oct 27, 2012 @ 11:31pm 
Originally posted by eagleFMJ:
Should I make bails and sell them or just sell the straw by itsself, whats better?

I'm interested in the answer to this too.. it seems you can just pick up straw/hay/grass with a loading wagon like the shuttle 900k, so why would you bother going to all the extra hassle of making bales? is that just in case you want to store them for later use? or is there something that you can do with bales that you cant do with a loading wagon?
Saintanik Oct 27, 2012 @ 11:39pm 
... ok, just went and re-read one of the posts higher up the page.. so if you want to spread hay for the cows to sleep on, or if you want to create mixed feed, you need bales rather than loose material from a loading wagon, is that correct?
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