MAD2169 Oct 11, 2013 @ 6:47pm
False Advertising
I had Farming Simulator 2013 before this expansion came out. It says on it's page that if I have 2013 I get updated to Titanium Edition, which I did? It says that I now have Titanium Edition. But I see no American map. It says on the page that I shouldn't buy it because it will add nothing new to my game. Where is the American map then? That's in the Titanium Edition, but not in my "updated" game. This is what it says on the page for the DLC:


NOTE: The Farming Simulator 2013 Official Expansion is a way for users who owned Farming Simulator 2013 to upgrade to the Titanium Edition.
If you purchased the base game before the Titanium Edition was available, this DLC will upgrade your game to Titanium.
If you already own the Titanium Edition, this DLC does not provide any new content.

Doesn't Titanium upgrading include the American Map? If not, why did they bother to "upgrade" my game? I don't see a name being an upgrade.
Last edited by MAD2169; Oct 11, 2013 @ 6:50pm
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Maiteria Oct 11, 2013 @ 6:54pm 
Not so much false advertising, as a lack of reading comprehension (and being confused by how they changed the game title name) :-p

Titanium does indeed include the American map (Westbridge Hill)
And as you posted, you answered your own question too.

You had Farming Simulator 2013 before Titanium came out.
It says nowhere that you will be upgraded to Titanium edition for free.
It says, however, that if you buy the Official Expansion, you'll be upgraded to the Titanium Edition, and you'll get the map and equipment.
(The fact it says you own Farming Simulator 2013 Titanium Edition, is just some weirdness from how they changed the name of the game title on Steam, as you saw on the Official Expansion page, you'll need to get that)
Last edited by Maiteria; Oct 11, 2013 @ 6:55pm
MAD2169 Oct 11, 2013 @ 6:56pm 
How is that my error when they changed the name of MY game to Titanium Edition? That's on their dumb asses. By doing that, of course I am going to assume that I should have all that comes with the Titanium Edition. They should have addressed this issue, so yes it can still be seen as false advertising.
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Maiteria Oct 11, 2013 @ 7:06pm 
I didn't say it was your error that they changed the game name.
I was saying you didn't fully understand what the text on the Official Expansion page says.
"The Farming Simulator 2013 Official Expansion is a way for users who owned Farming Simulator 2013 to upgrade to the Titanium Edition."
It clearly states:
"If you purchased the base game before the Titanium Edition was available, this DLC will upgrade your game to Titanium." - and as you purchased the base game before Titanium came out, you will need to buy that Official Expansion.
And...
"If you already own the Titanium Edition, this DLC does not provide any new content." < is refering to if you bought the game after the Titanium Edition came out, then buying the Official Expansion gives you nothing. :-)
胖哥哥 Oct 11, 2013 @ 8:07pm 
现在只能购买模拟农场2013钛板,花费27.99美元。我们预购模拟农场2013的玩家缺要在花19.99美元才能玩钛板,这是为什么呢?

Now only buy farm simulation 2013 titanium plate, $27.99. We pre simulation game player 2013 farm missing to spend $19.99 to play with titanium plate, is this why?
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Maverick Oct 11, 2013 @ 8:29pm 
False advertising pertains to aquisition of an item under a false perception. i.e. Not receiving something you are led to believe you will.

Companies can in fact change a name on any product at will whether it's intended or otherwise provided it is not intended to mislead the purchaser. If it did, the the first paragraph still applies.

You paid for nothing. Your argument is baseless.
cpirrmann Oct 13, 2013 @ 7:07am 
It is not baseless, otherwise trademarks would be unprotected and their subsequent lawsuits groundless.
Rocley Oct 13, 2013 @ 7:59am 
It could hav e been worded better I think.
Maverick Oct 13, 2013 @ 9:44pm 
Originally posted by cpirrmann:
It is not baseless, otherwise trademarks would be unprotected and their subsequent lawsuits groundless.
I'm talking about nothing is "false" in *this scenario* because you paid for nothing. It's merely a titling issue.

I reiterate, false advertising is where you paid for something you were told you would get and did not. Please explain where this occurred?

Nonetheless, if you still feel you are entitled to some form of legal recompense for a *name change* on a free upgrade, go right ahead. Who am I to argue against such obvious expertise in such matters?


...why did they bother to "upgrade" my game? I don't see a name being an upgrade.
Take 5 minutes out of your busy schedule and go SEE all the changes included in the free upgrade.
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JointHorse Oct 14, 2013 @ 6:38am 
Confusing isn't it?
potaco Oct 14, 2013 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by Maverick:
Originally posted by cpirrmann:
It is not baseless, otherwise trademarks would be unprotected and their subsequent lawsuits groundless.
I'm talking about nothing is "false" in *this scenario* because you paid for nothing. It's merely a titling issue.

I reiterate, false advertising is where you paid for something you were told you would get and did not. Please explain where this occurred?

Nonetheless, if you still feel you are entitled to some form of legal recompense for a *name change* on a free upgrade, go right ahead. Who am I to argue against such obvious expertise in such matters?
You're just arguing semantics.

If I buy Awesome Game 2013 and I log into Steam one day to see it's been changed to Awesome Game 2013 Even Awesomer Edition, the most common response would be "cool, looks like I got upgraded", not "wow, I can't believe they changed the name for me so that it's indistinguishable from the real upgrade and expect me to pay to actually have the name reflect the product".

I won't pretend to know how Steam handles all of their backend/business stuff, but given that other games get removed from the store and still remain available for their purchasers to download, it seems like it would have been possible to leave the original "Farm Simulator 2013" as it was, but remove it from the store page. That way, there would have been no confusion at all. The full Titanium Edition would be the one new customers would buy, while the Official Upgrade would be immediately obvious for prior customers. If you saw "Titanium Edition" in your library, you'd know you had that content... if you didn't see it, you would know you didn't have that content.
Originally posted by Maverick:
...why did they bother to "upgrade" my game? I don't see a name being an upgrade.
Take 5 minutes out of your busy schedule and go SEE all the changes included in the free upgrade.
Except it's not really a free upgrade... at most, it's a patch that could have been applied to the original base game without changing the name.
Last edited by potaco; Oct 14, 2013 @ 6:58am
marksteele Oct 14, 2013 @ 10:13am 
Originally posted by potaco:
Originally posted by Maverick:
I'm talking about nothing is "false" in *this scenario* because you paid for nothing. It's merely a titling issue.

I reiterate, false advertising is where you paid for something you were told you would get and did not. Please explain where this occurred?

Nonetheless, if you still feel you are entitled to some form of legal recompense for a *name change* on a free upgrade, go right ahead. Who am I to argue against such obvious expertise in such matters?
You're just arguing semantics.

If I buy Awesome Game 2013 and I log into Steam one day to see it's been changed to Awesome Game 2013 Even Awesomer Edition, the most common response would be "cool, looks like I got upgraded", not "wow, I can't believe they changed the name for me so that it's indistinguishable from the real upgrade and expect me to pay to actually have the name reflect the product".

I won't pretend to know how Steam handles all of their backend/business stuff, but given that other games get removed from the store and still remain available for their purchasers to download, it seems like it would have been possible to leave the original "Farm Simulator 2013" as it was, but remove it from the store page. That way, there would have been no confusion at all. The full Titanium Edition would be the one new customers would buy, while the Official Upgrade would be immediately obvious for prior customers. If you saw "Titanium Edition" in your library, you'd know you had that content... if you didn't see it, you would know you didn't have that content.
Originally posted by Maverick:

Take 5 minutes out of your busy schedule and go SEE all the changes included in the free upgrade.
Except it's not really a free upgrade... at most, it's a patch that could have been applied to the original base game without changing the name.

it's DLC. The reason they changed the name is it now comes standard with EVERY NEW copy of the game. It's far less confusing this way, sorta.
Last edited by marksteele; Oct 14, 2013 @ 10:14am
Maiteria Oct 14, 2013 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by SSG Demon:
im manly confused cos when i got to bye it it says i allready own Titanium Edition but i dont have any off the content so abit miss leading.
That's where the Official Expansion, and the explanation there comes in.

I agree it's very confusing, but I'm not sure much else could have been done to prevent the confusion, unless they created a seperate new game listing on Steam, but I have no idea how that works. :-)
Hardwire Oct 14, 2013 @ 11:32am 
NOTE: The Farming Simulator 2013 Official Expansion is a way for users who owned Farming Simulator 2013 to upgrade to the Titanium Edition.
If you purchased the base game before the Titanium Edition was available, this DLC will upgrade your game to Titanium.
If you already own the Titanium Edition, this DLC does not provide any new content.

sorry bud the error is yours its spelled out fairly clear
AlphaDiode® Oct 14, 2013 @ 12:23pm 
I'd suggest that a sticky is needed to address this topic as the question comes up so often but that probably wouldn't help much because people still won't read them. What Giants should have done to eliminate the confusion is call this Farming Simulator 2014 and then sell the upgrade for FS2013 users.
Maverick Oct 14, 2013 @ 12:35pm 
Originally posted by potaco:
You're just arguing semantics.
No, I'm arguing terminology.

The term FALSE ADVERTISING is false and I've said it from the outset. The thread itself is false advertising because it's simply not about false advertising. (Can I have my money back?)

Agreed, the confusion I can understand and the wording is not the best but really??


Originally posted by potaco:
Take 5 minutes out of your busy schedule and go SEE all the changes included in the free upgrade.
Except it's not really a free upgrade... at most, it's a patch that could have been applied to the original base game without changing the name.
THAT'S arguing semantics.

:Thought for the day
Maybe OP should be asking if he can roll back to *pre titanium* so he can have his "not Titanium" screen back. Yep. that's all this is.
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