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Sven01351 Jan 20, 2013 @ 6:36pm
Is Steam a Subsidy of Multiple ISP's that Meter Bandwidth ???
Does Steam have a clue how LARGE the downloads are and that many are now on metered services? If so, please respond with how you intend in the future to have one "add a game" (from disk) and then not have to also download the whole thing from your 'service' <==== I say that in single quotes as a direct ref. as to how I am serviced by Steam...might want to look that term up...bandwidth is expensive...fix this...
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Sven01351 Jan 20, 2013 @ 7:13pm 
Oh...and Chrome as an App on W8 does not allow me to login but switch to desktop and it does....Google says security, MS says so too...ugghhh
Orange Bitflip Jan 20, 2013 @ 8:16pm 
No, Steam is not a subsidy to the scum ISPs. They are trying to get you to use as little bandwidth as possible, and Steam pushes you to use more.

They do have a clue how small the downloads are. They made them that small. Guess what? When you're finished downloading, it decompresses.

Fix what?

Oh... and stop thinking that anybody's ever going to use Metro.

If you have a problem with network-based media distribution and blatent wastes of bandwidth, then stop using Steam, X-Fire, and YouTube.
iMillname Jan 21, 2013 @ 4:13am 
You cant fit huge 7gb+ games into 100mb. The End. Steam says it requires broadband so you should read that and realise its internet heavy.
herofalls Jan 21, 2013 @ 8:44am 
Steam is a Game Delievery Platform. They have nothing to do with your ISP. The whole purpose of Steam is to cut out the retail store. You get your games faster and cheaper then buying retail. Sounds like you need a better ISP or a better package that has unlimited bandwidth.

Most Steam users are those with unlimited bandwidth packages....
{{{SHADOW}}} Jan 21, 2013 @ 1:06pm 
how r u supposed to play it every time i click on it it wont let me play and goes to steam.any solutions?
MajesticMoomin Jan 22, 2013 @ 8:24am 
I agree with the others, just get a bandwidth meter and set up an alarm so you know when you are close to your cap. steam are in no way responsable for this and i cant see how you came to that conclusion! Just make sure you limit your downloads if you have a low cap, or even easier get a better ISP.
Martynek Jan 22, 2013 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by herofalls:
Steam is a Game Delievery Platform. They have nothing to do with your ISP. The whole purpose of Steam is to cut out the retail store. You get your games faster and cheaper then buying retail. Sounds like you need a better ISP or a better package that has unlimited bandwidth.

Most Steam users are those with unlimited bandwidth packages....
i have a 200GB/month bandwidth, and i can get my games perfectly fine.
Sven01351 Feb 16, 2013 @ 4:13pm 
None of the replies above adress the issue: I have the game on disk and added to steam...why in good grief sense does it then need to download the whole game again - please only respond if reading and understanding the issue at hand is a part of our commenting approach.
Orange Bitflip Feb 16, 2013 @ 4:37pm 
Is today International reply-to-your-own-thread-after-a-month day?
Weird.

Anyway, if you have the CD key of the game, you can add the key in steam and install the game through steam, but using the CD/DVD. You can also set updates to manual.
Sven01351 Feb 16, 2013 @ 5:03pm 
^ The game will not play until a huge download is completed - stop spreading 'mis-truths' please.
Sven01351 Feb 16, 2013 @ 5:12pm 
Oh - as for your diss: "Is today International reply-to-your-own-thread-after-a-month day?
Weird." I decided to complete the download, as I like the Game..As for Steam, they need to get with it as everyone is either metered now or soon will be and GB downloads will show at the top of list of all contiensous customers (the ones paying the bills)....Until they do, they have lost my business...and I write for a major pub...and know facts...huge downloads = lost business! WIll write back in a month to sooth you. OK?
McBlasterson Feb 16, 2013 @ 11:27pm 
The installing of games through a disk to steam is a real thing but only works with a few games. I got my start on Steam by buying the Orange Box from Best Buy for $20. Downloaded Steam and went to it, but that was like 5 years ago.

I dont mean to be a jerk but I like how you say you "know facts". If you did you would know that large files cannot be crushed into tiny sizes and retain all the info perfectly. Its not like Origin or Uplay or any other digital distributor has smaller sizes or something. Its just how the rapid improvement of technology is taking us. Games, HD video, online streaming, it all will be getting bigger and better and there's no stopping it.

You should honestly think about switching your ISP, and if you cant that really sucks.

And because I enjoy analogies: This is like: If you were on a diet, Steam is McDonalds and you want a BigMac. Then you look at the calories and see they are way out of line, then proceed to tell McD's that they have to make a BigSalad instead so that YOU can have it. Doesn't make much sense because other people can, and will, eat that delicious product!

Moral of the story-Steam is only a distributor. They can only give out what they get, and AAA games are huge these days. Good luck.
Sven01351 Feb 17, 2013 @ 5:25am 
"I dont mean to be a jerk" = your comment does not address the issue...the choice here is dial up or Mobile Broadband (a metered service)...ISP's are heavily investing in companies who's main goal is to have their customers use much bandwidth and Steam is on that track...Since almost all ISP's now have a cap, Steam will continue to go down the drain until it finds a better way to serve it's customers.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/14/isp-data-caps-in-the-era-of-downloadable-games
McBlasterson Feb 18, 2013 @ 2:51am 
Not everyone has a cap. I dont. My friends dont. That old lady down the street doesnt. So I think Steam is fine. Get a clue man. Your problem should not be with Steam, it should be with your ISP. Plain and simple.
bob-vs-godzilla Feb 24, 2013 @ 12:48pm 
You can install from disk:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5357-FSQM-0382
Updates may be downloaded but I can't see them being too data hungry. You can set manual updates and just not download them if you're that data conscious.

Since the choice of internet plans in your area is dial up or mobile wireless I would consider moving somewhere where you could get something with more data allowance. If you can't move then it's just tough luck, simple as that. Some ISPs actually host Steam games on their servers and give them UNMETERED to their customers. I'm not sure exactly which ones, use google to find out which ISPs and games are available this way. The idea of a Valve/ISP conspiracy is a bit delirious IMO.
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