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SuperiorBandicoot64 Apr 14 @ 3:19pm
Gordon Freeman is the most overrated character in video games
Valve completely failed at making gordon a good silent protagonist. They tried to make it feel like you were him like Bioshock did with Jack,but instead they made him too established of a character, giving him a iconic appearence, a somewhat large backstory, and becuase of this, makes me feel alienated from his character. The sheer fact no one realises this and calls him the greatest character in video games bothers me. how can you put him up there with the best of the best game characters like Ellie from The Last Of Us, John Marston from Red dead redemption, and my favorite video game chracter of all time, Big Boss from the Metal Gear Solid prequels? You agree with me or dissagree?
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AndrewAF1 Apr 14 @ 4:00pm 
nicely put, i disagree
A Dud Apr 14 @ 4:03pm 
Freedman
Okay.

my favorite video game chracter of all time, Big Boss from the Metal Gear Solid prequels
O-okay...

But anyway I completely agree with what you said about the backstory and all that. Whoever thought giving him a backstory doesn't understand the whole concept of how the player is supposed to be Gordon. Another thing that ♥♥♥♥es me off is how HL2 grounded you in a "good-guy" state, whereas HL1 allowed you to go Rambo on everyone, allowing you to shape your own backstory and personality for Gordon. Killing a scientist didn't shift the plot or mess with Gordon's character because there wasn't one back in '98.
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SuperiorBandicoot64 Apr 14 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by A Dud:
Freedman
Okay.
sorry about that.
SuperiorBandicoot64 Apr 14 @ 4:22pm 
Originally posted by A Dud:
But anyway I completely agree with what you said about the backstory and all that. Whoever thought giving him a backstory doesn't understand the whole concept of how the player is supposed to be Gordon. Another thing that ♥♥♥♥es me off is how HL2 grounded you in a "good-guy" state, whereas HL1 allowed you to go Rambo on everyone, allowing you to shape your own backstory and personality for Gordon. Killing a scientist didn't shift the plot or mess with Gordon's character because there wasn't one back in '98.

Correct me if im wrong (Have not played HL2 in months) but you were allowed to kill citizens and members of the resistance, right?
A Dud Apr 14 @ 4:30pm 
Originally posted by Superbandicoot64:
Correct me if im wrong (Have not played HL2 in months) but you were allowed to kill citizens and members of the resistance, right?
Nope.
A-06 Apr 14 @ 7:21pm 
Gordon's "backstory:" He worked at Black Mesa. Yeah... I don't see the large part.

Though I do think he doesn't have a character outside of your influence.
A Dud Apr 14 @ 7:27pm 
Originally posted by A-06:
Gordon's "backstory:" He worked at Black Mesa. Yeah... I don't see the large part.
A native of Seattle, Washington, Freeman showed great interest and aptitude in the areas of quantum physics and relativity at a young age. His earliest heroes were Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking and Richard Feynman. At age 6, he even constructed a butane-powered tennis ball cannon.
While visiting the University of Innsbruck in the late 1990s, Freeman observed a series of seminal teleportation experiments conducted by the Institute for Experimental Physics. Practical applications for teleportation became his obsession, and he eventually attended the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), in which Isaac Kleiner became his mentor. In 1999, he received his doctorate (Ph.D.) from MIT with a thesis paper entitled Observation of Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Entanglement on Supraquantum Structures by Induction through Nonlinear Transuranic Crystal of Extremely Long Wavelength (ELW) Pulse from Mode-Locked Source Array (essentially about the teleportation of matter through extremely dense elements).

Disappointed with the slow pace and poor funding of academic research (and with potential tenure a distant dream), Freeman looked for a job in the private sector. Incidentally, Kleiner had taken charge of a research project being conducted at the Black Mesa Research Facility, located somewhere in the New Mexico desert. He was looking for a few bright associates, and Gordon was his first choice, although Judith Mossman also applied for the position. Considering the source and amount of funds available to the Black Mesa labs, Gordon suspected that he would be involved in some sort of weapons research, but in the hopes that practical civilian applications would arise in areas of quantum computing and astrophysics, he accepted Kleiner's offer.
At the start of Half-Life on May 16, 200-, the day of the Black Mesa Incident, Gordon Freeman is 27 years old, has no dependents, and has never handled a weapon of any sort. He is working at the Black Mesa facility, where he owns a Level 3 Research Associate position. He is accommodated in the Level 3 Dormitories in the Black Mesa South Wing, alone in room 309.
SuperiorBandicoot64 Apr 14 @ 7:35pm 
Originally posted by A Dud:
Originally posted by A-06:
Gordon's "backstory:" He worked at Black Mesa. Yeah... I don't see the large part.
A native of Seattle, Washington, Freeman showed great interest and aptitude in the areas of quantum physics and relativity at a young age. His earliest heroes were Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking and Richard Feynman. At age 6, he even constructed a butane-powered tennis ball cannon.
While visiting the University of Innsbruck in the late 1990s, Freeman observed a series of seminal teleportation experiments conducted by the Institute for Experimental Physics. Practical applications for teleportation became his obsession, and he eventually attended the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), in which Isaac Kleiner became his mentor. In 1999, he received his doctorate (Ph.D.) from MIT with a thesis paper entitled Observation of Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Entanglement on Supraquantum Structures by Induction through Nonlinear Transuranic Crystal of Extremely Long Wavelength (ELW) Pulse from Mode-Locked Source Array (essentially about the teleportation of matter through extremely dense elements).

Disappointed with the slow pace and poor funding of academic research (and with potential tenure a distant dream), Freeman looked for a job in the private sector. Incidentally, Kleiner had taken charge of a research project being conducted at the Black Mesa Research Facility, located somewhere in the New Mexico desert. He was looking for a few bright associates, and Gordon was his first choice, although Judith Mossman also applied for the position. Considering the source and amount of funds available to the Black Mesa labs, Gordon suspected that he would be involved in some sort of weapons research, but in the hopes that practical civilian applications would arise in areas of quantum computing and astrophysics, he accepted Kleiner's offer.
At the start of Half-Life on May 16, 200-, the day of the Black Mesa Incident, Gordon Freeman is 27 years old, has no dependents, and has never handled a weapon of any sort. He is working at the Black Mesa facility, where he owns a Level 3 Research Associate position. He is accommodated in the Level 3 Dormitories in the Black Mesa South Wing, alone in room 309.
beat me to it
A-06 Apr 14 @ 7:48pm 
Originally posted by A Dud:
Originally posted by A-06:
Gordon's "backstory:" He worked at Black Mesa. Yeah... I don't see the large part.
A native of Seattle, Washington, Freeman ...
Well... this is awkward. Even more because I'm a rollback in the wiki!
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Lord Swaggington Apr 15 @ 3:31am 
[quote/]. Another thing that ♥♥♥♥es me off is how HL2 grounded you in a "good-guy" state, whereas HL1 allowed you to go Rambo on everyone, allowing you to shape your own backstory and personality for Gordon. Killing a scientist didn't shift the plot or mess with Gordon's character because there wasn't one back in '98.

Errr, thats because it wasent supposed to be a serious game! It was a fun and quirky FPS.

Half-Life 2 took the serious part of it and made the finest FPS ever made (Suck it COD)
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Tenndex Apr 15 @ 5:22am 
I agree, Gordon may be a great character, but he just seems lacking. The silent protagonist thing is getting really old now.

btw, you're gonna anger all the fanboys who will fight to the death to bring you down becuase you said a bad thing about their perfect game.
A-06 Apr 15 @ 5:38am 
Originally posted by Tenndex:
I agree, Gordon may be a great character, but he just seems lacking. The silent protagonist thing is getting really old now.
You do know the game is 10 years old in November, right? Or are you talking about the current FPSs?
SuperiorBandicoot64 Apr 15 @ 9:50am 
Originally posted by Tenndex:
I agree, Gordon may be a great character, but he just seems lacking. The silent protagonist thing is getting really old now.

btw, you're gonna anger all the fanboys who will fight to the death to bring you down becuase you said a bad thing about their perfect game.
i know, ill be ready. :)
InsaneComeInPeace Apr 15 @ 2:31pm 
I really like Gordon. He's BADASS
Budoshi Apr 15 @ 5:44pm 
i like hlf2, but i hate gordon. this dude have no personality at all, h es just ...there.. like a robot, and what,s not helping him ? he's a silent protagonist.yes very overrated.
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