Crystazul Jul 22, 2013 @ 6:15am
A few questions from a newbie
I have a few questions I am hoping someone can offer some useful advice on. I'll underline the actual questions.

1. Sponsor relations: How do you best foster good relations with your sponsors? I am into the second season of my first trial team (Saxo-Tinkoff, I figured they would be easy) to get a feel for things and I am still doing poorly in this respect. I've improved in my relations but I think that is because I have started doing overall well in the large races (Giro, Criterium, TDF, Vuelta, etc.) but I still struggle with how to effectively manage a team to participate in other races effectively. I tried to pick the best overall climbers, stage racers, and supporting riders to ride for the "A Team" in the big races and then arranged everyone else into a "B Team" and "C Team", but naturally they don't do very well. Is there a better way to arrange my team to be successful in these smaller races?

2. Energy gel: I've goggled all over, and it seems like you want to use this to help a sprint. Can someone clarify exactly when? Does it help climbers? I see it flashes and then turns into a "flame". I am thinking the flame is the optimal time to use it.

3. How does training work? I see in the athlete menu there are coaches that an athlete is assigned to and they can train a category of skill, but how does that progress? I see the stars show where the most potential is and I assume you want to train a category corresponding to that.

4. How do you beat Chris Froome? This might sound like a joke but I am serious, any strategical suggestions out there? I've tried attacking when he is back getting water, on the descents, setting a blistering pace so he has no teammates on the climbs, attacking at the very steepest portions, and no matter what he just motors his way right back up to me.

5. Tips for breakaways? It seems like the computer always catches a breakaway when I'm in it, but usually doesn't care if I am not. Is this an actual flaw in the AI or how might you suggest I succeed in breakaways.

Thanks for your time.
Last edited by Crystazul; Jul 22, 2013 @ 6:18am
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Dee-Jay Jul 22, 2013 @ 10:50am 
1. I'd say tweak your objectives to match the strengths of your team, and don't over-estimate your team's abilities. Remember not to overcommit your top riders (e.g. don't ride all three grand tours), traditionally go for TDF or maybe Giro/Vuelta but not all.
Try and match your riders to the race and drop your objectives right down if you haven't a rider capable of it. Then try and balance that by aiming higher in the races your team is more suited to. Remember, you should try and have one of your better riders in a race and some of the poorer ones to act as domestiques.
2. Energy gel makes the sprints + attacks last longer by making the red bar decrease more slowly (this only happens when the icon is flaming so time it correctly).
3. Not sure about this one :) sorry.
4. I'm guessing match strengths to weaknesses and ensure your contender is at peak fitness and has done the training camps (reconnoiter etc) for the race. Other than that it could be best man wins.
5. I believe there is a bug in the game with the breaks which they may fix soon hopefully. :)
Ticcque Jul 22, 2013 @ 12:28pm 
Ticcque Jul 22, 2013 @ 12:35pm 
That picture explain how training category effect the stat of rider.Eg; You want to improve rider mountain stat you should train him as stage race or climber because that training improve mountain the most.Aahh..you got the point : )
Crystazul Jul 22, 2013 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by Ticcque:
That picture explain how training category effect the stat of rider.Eg; You want to improve rider mountain stat you should train him as stage race or climber because that training improve mountain the most.Aahh..you got the point : )

Thank you, but I am still curious how the training itself works. What affects how much a rider progresses? Is there a certain correlation between training time, the number of stars, and how long it takes for a skill to increase? I assume somewhere around the age 30 athletes start to decrease as well, since Contador dropped an overall skill point in his 31st year.
Last edited by Crystazul; Jul 22, 2013 @ 1:49pm
Ticcque Jul 22, 2013 @ 2:21pm 
As far as I know trainer skill make rider gain their skill faster, so rider can reach their peak early before decline...(decline in pcm set by age) you can check in full editor to find out.for the star i'm not sure how much stat it effect exactly.But it should effect the maximum stat rider can gain,it is indicate the potential.
|AMB| Bird Jul 23, 2013 @ 4:09am 
1: Don't make your objectives to hard, try to lower them. But not so low that your budget will decrease. It also helps to sign riders from the same country as your sponsor is. World-class riders will make your sponsor happy as well

2: No answer to that.

3: A high potential level of the rider and the reputation of your trainer will make skill increase faster or slower.

4: To beat Chris Froome you'll need 2 top climbers. One to make speed for the peloton, and one to follow. Eventually, Chris Froome will be so exhausted that he won't be able to follow, this is the time to attack him (works fine for me :)). To stay away from him when downhilling, you have to increase the intensivity of your rider, to 85, 90 or even 95. You can beat Chris Froome in time trail as well, especially when there is a mountain in it, and again: increase your riders intensivity when going uphill in the trial, this is the point where most riders lose a lot of time.

5: For a breakaway it's the best to use a non-important rider in your team, he's not important to catch. You'll have to make speed in the breakaway as well, but not all the time, let your breakawaymates do something as well. In long mountain stages the chance to stay away with the breakaway is very high because your enemies don't want to spend energy on chasing the breakaway.
revenge of the fallen Jul 23, 2013 @ 1:02pm 
pls gift me this game pls
|AMB| Bird Jul 23, 2013 @ 1:25pm 
If you have a valid reason XD
Aggie [Msheep] Jul 24, 2013 @ 5:25am 
hej
Dee-Jay Jul 24, 2013 @ 2:03pm 
Originally posted by ^DIK-TATO-R^:
pls gift me this game pls

LOL nice try :D
tellico Jul 28, 2013 @ 3:14am 
Originally posted by Mirron:
Thank you, but I am still curious how the training itself works. What affects how much a rider progresses? Is there a certain correlation between training time, the number of stars, and how long it takes for a skill to increase? I assume somewhere around the age 30 athletes start to decrease as well, since Contador dropped an overall skill point in his 31st year.

Trainer fame have no matter, only his stats. National trainer with SPR=8 will be better in sprint training than Mythic trainer with SPR=7.
If you really interested how it works read this:
http://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=25052

Froome is a beast, You need some luck and perfectly use your advantages (Nibali: downhill).
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