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J20Hawkz Nov 28, 2013 @ 2:40pm
● Why should you BUY Don't Starve + Reign of Giants ●
http://store.steampowered.com/app/219740/?snr=1_7_15__13

(PRICE WILL GO UP TO $19.99 WHEN MULTIPLAYER COMES OUT FOR DON'T STARVE SO IF YOU WANT TO BUY DON'T STARVE FOR CHEAPER NOW IS THE TIME. DON'T STARVE MULTIPLAYER WILL BE FREE FOR ANYONE WHO HAS THE BASE GAME PRIOR TO DON'T STARVE MULTIPLAYER BEING RELEASED)

Just want to point out I'm a regular forumer like you, who loves this game. I was lucky enough to be made moderator on this forum hence why my username here is orange. This is my honest opinion as a fan, on why I believe you should buy this game if you are unsure.

Now and again our community discussion forum is introduced to the odd "Should I buy" or "Is it worth it" thread. Normally these threads are genuine and the person asking the question is willing to take on board the friendly advice we, as current players, flood them with. So what I thought was how about I make a thread highlighting all the most notable aspects of what makes Don't Starve a valuable game to have.

To make things easy to read and follow I'll start a list, feel free to add anything I haven't and I'll update the list or just leave a comment in general. And no this isn't the FIVE word game, so please be normal and post appropriate comments. Thanks.

1st DLC now AVAILABLE. To purchase the DLC at a discount price of $3.99 $4.99 use the link and scroll down to the frist post made by JoeW.

http://forums.kleientertainment.com/topic/31824-wednesday-dlc-update-come-and-get-it/

Awesome developers team.
Only $14.99 / £11.99 / 13,99€ / 299р. / R$ 24,99
Never ending game.
DLC speculation in the future. Edit: 1st DLC Reign of Giants 2014
Awesome Community
Awesome wiki.
Controller support.
Good selection of unique playable characters.
Diverse, living and breathing world.
Randomly generated maps.
Can interact with almost everything in game.
Challenging battles.
RPG elements.
Huge selection of constructible objects.
Massive selection of food recipes.
Grow your own food using farm plots, traps, berry bushes, bees etc...
Kill creatures to get food and valuable resources used for crafting.
Cook food over a fire for additional bonuses.
Build traps to capture or kill creatures.
Day to Night changes.
Summer to Winter changes.
Survival horror.
Exploration above and below ground.
Plenty of different creatures to interact with.
Hostile and friendly creatures that the player can choose to kill or befriend.
Good selection of weapons and armour to craft and use.
Decent base building.
Adventure Mode that adds a challenge and twist to the standard sandbox survival mode.
Rain and lightning storms.
Fire can be devastating so never play with it.
Maintain your own beefalo herd.
Fight against massive one eyed bosses.
Awesome player crafted mods section.
This is not minecraft it's better (I say this because lots of people think this is minecraft....weird I know).
Multiplayer mode this Summer 2014.

Here is my review if you still need convincing.

http://steamcommunity.com//profiles/76561198045307497/recommended/219740/

Here is an example of the sort of things you can make for fun:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=151738059

Read my opinion and what the community has said about Reign of Giants DLC
http://store.steampowered.com/app/282470/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/219740/discussions/0/540737958398045383/
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J20Hawkz Nov 28, 2013 @ 2:46pm 
Originally posted by ash:
be a good sport and contribute to the dont starve wiki
those guys are awesome

I have. Why haven't you?

*sips J20 with a confident smile, while eating roast turkey, roast potatoes, steam veg and dipping Yorkshire puddings in tangy gravy*
Last edited by J20Hawkz; Nov 28, 2013 @ 2:56pm
Ullwind Nov 28, 2013 @ 2:51pm 
Well Im sold.
Angelatic-Birdy Nov 28, 2013 @ 3:00pm 
This is what i was looking for thx mate!!
Mitur Nov 28, 2013 @ 3:21pm 
i was thinking about this game with todays sale this sold me thank you very much for your help
J20Hawkz Nov 28, 2013 @ 4:33pm 
Awesome. Glad this helped someone
Regeta Nov 29, 2013 @ 1:25pm 
Here's a few reasons NOT to, just to provide some balance.

1) Your mods will be useless and unusuable once an update rolls out. While the game is most likely finished being updated, it sucked for us who bought the game at the start and couldn't keep our mods because Steam would automatically update the game for us. There is no way to rollback, or at least- no way to roll back that is easily found on their forums or through support emails.

1b) Why would anyone support developers who poured so much into mods for their game, but were too stupid to not have all mods break immediately upon updating the game? A developer should support mods when pouring nearly half of their dev time in creating moddability, not forcefully break them with every update. Talk about lack of foresight, and one epic fail...

2) The updates were pretty lame. Maybe if the updates were awesome additions to the game, it would be worth destroying most mods and undoing others while you waited for an update to the mod that might not come. This is not the case. The updates were either unimpressive, or more of the same. How disappointing was it that it turned out the new underground bunny creatures were just Pig-Men with a different skin.

3) No multiplayer, poor on-screen COOP support.

4) Developers who seem to believe it is worthwhile to waste development time and resources to force their playstyle down other's throats. The game had permadeath and deleted your save, but you could (in a very uncomfortable and annoying way) scum-save. It wasn't a friendly or easy way to scum-save. It was simply a way to. They were angered by this, and spend developer resources to try to prevent scum-saving (despite how it wasn't easy to do in the first place) to try and force their playstyle down other people's throats...in a SINGLEPLAYER game. Some developers were actually personally offended when MODS were released that disabled permadeath. Why? This is the whole point of MODS, and it is a singleplayer game. Even more idiotic, is how they are proven to be of the mindset of religious fundamentalists (see: crazy fanatics). They embraced the console that allowed you to cheat and mods that can cheat, but were angered and spent dev resources in an emotional volatile way to prevent one type of cheating? Absolutely insane. Fortunately for the community, the developer in charge allowed the MODS to stay, even though the team was... offended. I'm sorry, but it isn't even something to discuss. The game encourages people to play it the way the developers want. Why needlessly force, nay waste resources programming away, just so your consumers play it "Your way, or no way!"? It is a singleplayer game.

5) This game is pretty awesome, you should buy it because it's an amazing game. Although protesting the irrational fundie developers is something we should all do, not everyone on the team was like this. Besides some of the developers being a bit "touched" and obviously irrational about their permadeath feature, other devs were not irrational. At least some on the team were sane enough to say "Can we at least allow them to MOD however they want?" and pointed out the logical fallacies of other developers on the team. It is a disservice to boycott the entire project due to some of the developers being irrational fundies, especially when it's such a great game with a few sane developers pushing for a better game.
bobczes Nov 29, 2013 @ 2:24pm 
@The Joker

Updates in most moddable games (Skyrim e.g.) disrupt functionality of existing mods. This is SOP.

Lame updates? More like free content. But if you didn't like them, so be it.

Klei has developed several games. Some of their other games are co-op/ multiplayer. This game is single player. You seem to want to shoehorn co-op into a game that was not meant to have it.

Your point #4 is a rant that makes no sense. I mean that sincerly.
Last edited by bobczes; Nov 29, 2013 @ 2:43pm
ClassyDots Nov 29, 2013 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by The Joker:
Here's a few reasons NOT to, just to provide some balance.

1) Your mods will be useless and unusuable once an update rolls out. While the game is most likely finished being updated, it sucked for us who bought the game at the start and couldn't keep our mods because Steam would automatically update the game for us. There is no way to rollback, or at least- no way to roll back that is easily found on their forums or through support emails.

1b) Why would anyone support developers who poured so much into mods for their game, but were too stupid to not have all mods break immediately upon updating the game? A developer should support mods when pouring nearly half of their dev time in creating moddability, not forcefully break them with every update. Talk about lack of foresight, and one epic fail...

2) The updates were pretty lame. Maybe if the updates were awesome additions to the game, it would be worth destroying most mods and undoing others while you waited for an update to the mod that might not come. This is not the case. The updates were either unimpressive, or more of the same. How disappointing was it that it turned out the new underground bunny creatures were just Pig-Men with a different skin.

3) No multiplayer, poor on-screen COOP support.

4) Developers who seem to believe it is worthwhile to waste development time and resources to force their playstyle down other's throats. The game had permadeath and deleted your save, but you could (in a very uncomfortable and annoying way) scum-save. It wasn't a friendly or easy way to scum-save. It was simply a way to. They were angered by this, and spend developer resources to try to prevent scum-saving (despite how it wasn't easy to do in the first place) to try and force their playstyle down other people's throats...in a SINGLEPLAYER game. Some developers were actually personally offended when MODS were released that disabled permadeath. Why? This is the whole point of MODS, and it is a singleplayer game. Even more idiotic, is how they are proven to be of the mindset of religious fundamentalists (see: crazy fanatics). They embraced the console that allowed you to cheat and mods that can cheat, but were angered and spent dev resources in an emotional volatile way to prevent one type of cheating? Absolutely insane. Fortunately for the community, the developer in charge allowed the MODS to stay, even though the team was... offended. I'm sorry, but it isn't even something to discuss. The game encourages people to play it the way the developers want. Why needlessly force, nay waste resources programming away, just so your consumers play it "Your way, or no way!"? It is a singleplayer game.

5) This game is pretty awesome, you should buy it because it's an amazing game. Although protesting the irrational fundie developers is something we should all do, not everyone on the team was like this. Besides some of the developers being a bit "touched" and obviously irrational about their permadeath feature, other devs were not irrational. At least some on the team were sane enough to say "Can we at least allow them to MOD however they want?" and pointed out the logical fallacies of other developers on the team. It is a disservice to boycott the entire project due to some of the developers being irrational fundies, especially when it's such a great game with a few sane developers pushing for a better game.

You are comparing game devs to religious fanatics... Riiight... I'm just gonna, like, go now, ok?
J20Hawkz Nov 29, 2013 @ 3:27pm 
Just to correct what The Joker has said above.

1) Mods will not be useless if the game is updated by the developers. Once the creator of the mod updates his/her mod, the mod will work as normal.

2) All updates we have had so far were free, emphasis on 'free'. The developers didn't have to release it. They got their money when we bought their game, so why would they care? Because they care so passionately about their game that's why. Anything they releases was an improvement on an already good game.

3) This has already been discussed. Please see the post I made in your other thread before I locked it.

4) To be honest I don't understand any of this. Sorry.

5) I agree this game is awesome. See the top post for the reasons why it is such a good game.
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SimplyGifted Nov 30, 2013 @ 10:26am 
This post is one of the reasons i bought this game :)
J20Hawkz Nov 30, 2013 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by TheEvolutionOfGaming:
This post is one of the reasons i bought this game :)

Awesome! Welcome to the community :)
Last edited by J20Hawkz; Nov 30, 2013 @ 11:06am
Sho Nuff Nov 30, 2013 @ 11:09am 
What joker is saying is that if he wants to scum-save then so what. Let people play the game the way they want to play. I don't do it, but then again, I don't have mods that give me a buttload of storage space or free items; to me that's "cheating". On the other hand, I DO have mods that show food values and hunger/sanity/health values. Some people might consider the mods I'm using to be "cheating". The point is "who cares"? Joker is right for being offended that the devs would want to agressively root out what *they* consider cheating. But it seems like the other shoe has dropped and mods are out and being fully supported. I know I've never had an easier time installing a mod than Don't Starve on Steam (Win7x64).

Happy hunting!
J20Hawkz Nov 30, 2013 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Sho Nuff:
What joker is saying is that if he wants to scum-save then so what. Let people play the game the way they want to play. I don't do it, but then again, I don't have mods that give me a buttload of storage space or free items; to me that's "cheating". On the other hand, I DO have mods that show food values and hunger/sanity/health values. Some people might consider the mods I'm using to be "cheating". The point is "who cares"? Joker is right for being offended that the devs would want to agressively root out what *they* consider cheating. But it seems like the other shoe has dropped and mods are out and being fully supported. I know I've never had an easier time installing a mod than Don't Starve on Steam (Win7x64).

Happy hunting!

I can't make any sense of this, sorry. I haven't read anywhere that anyone even the developers are against mods or 'scum saving'. The developers were the ones to allow players to add their created mods to the game. It doesn't affect anyone else so you can do what ever you wanted. If joker wants to 'scum save' (btw I hate this term) he can. Nobody is saying he can't.

If the developers or moderators were against mods then why are there multiplayer mods. If we were so against it surely we wouldn't allow multiplayer mods in the workshop. Sure some mods make the game seriously easy, and some of use can call a person a cheater if they used them. But that won't make sense either. Because again what ever that person does to his/her game won't have any bearing on how we play. Unless they brag about getting to day 1000 and we find out he/she was using no death mods or something, we could then call that person a cheater. Only in that situation.

The reason mods are so easy to install, is because the developers have made it easy. I can't understand why anyone would say the developers are against mods? Please clarify.
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Sho Nuff Nov 30, 2013 @ 1:07pm 
Originally posted by J20Hawkz:
I can't make any sense of this, sorry. I haven't read anywhere that anyone even the developers are against mods or 'scum saving'. The developers were the ones to allow players to add their created mods to the game. It doesn't affect anyone else so you can do what ever you wanted. If joker wants to 'scum save' (btw I hate this term) he can. Nobody is saying he can't.

If the developers or moderators were against mods then why are there multiplayer mods. If we were so against it surely we wouldn't allow multiplayer mods in the workshop. Sure some mods make the game seriously easy, and some of use can call a person a cheater if they used them. But that won't make sense either. Because again what ever that person does to his/her game won't have any bearing on how we play. Unless they brag about getting to day 1000 and we find out he/she was using no death mods or something, we could then call that person a cheater. Only in that situation.

The reason mods are so easy to install, is because the developers have made it easy. I can't understand why anyone would say the developers are against mods? Please clarify.

I don't know Joker's sources, so I assumed he posted a legitmate complaint. If it's baseless, that's one thing. However, people were bashing him without any reply to the content of his argument. _IF_ developers make it harder to mod, that sucks. Like I said in my post, the shoe has dropped. Modding is in full effect. So the whole argument is somewhat mooted. However, his original point about devs going after mods they didn't approve is valid. I haven't seen anyone make any counter-argument to that point yet.

Make sense to you?
J20Hawkz Nov 30, 2013 @ 1:11pm 
The reason why people are bashing him is because of this religious fanatical concept he believes is so strongly associated with gaming. I won't go into that anymore, seeing how things got pretty out of control yesterday and I would like to think everyone has got over it by now.

Can you please provide me with evidence where a developer has 'gone after a mod they did not approve of'. A link would be great. I'll let the community decide whether these mods were justly disapproved. Thanks.

Edit: only then can anyone give you a counter argument.
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