Nihilistic Pessimist Apr 9 @ 11:11pm
Hawx 1 vs Hawx 2?
So should I buy this game or Hawx 2?
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|x|Sirius|x| Apr 10 @ 12:46am 
This one is cheaper, especially when on a sale.
The 2nd one I have steered clear off, for various reasons, mostly:

I have read that you are severly limited in the aircraft you can choose for each mission
They took out the awesome "OFF-Mode" which made the 1st one a blast to play.

So, without actually having played the 2nd (but I collected a bit of info), I'll say go for this one. It's a cool action game, if you can disregard the weak Tom Clancy "Murica is awesome and really heroic" bullcrap story.
Nihilistic Pessimist Apr 10 @ 1:30am 
Lol ok, and yeah Murica is a ♥♥♥♥ing plutocracy so how awesome can it really be? Also, can you adjust the deadzone (important for joysticks) for this game? Also when you go into that special "OFF-mode" aka that mode when you're camera angle gets all wonky, is that the time you can do the special loop where you drastically slow down, almost stall, but then complete the loop (in the process pitching up really quickly and slowing down quickly so you can get behind an enemy?)
|x|Sirius|x| Apr 10 @ 2:01am 
Yeah, Off-Mode is that "action-camera-y" mode where you do the crazy stunt flying.
Once you have that down, you'll almost always want fly in that mode.

It has some form of joystick deadzone settings, yes. However, since I use a gamepad hooked up via "x360ce" (xbox controller emulator), I can't say how those settings work, since I use that software to configure my deadzones and such.

Also, be aware that for online play, you need an Uplay account.
LAN works, though, so you could use Tunngle or Hamachi to connect to virtual LANs, if you don't have/want Uplay. I know for a fact that there is a HAWX room on Tunngle, for example.

Edit: For singleplayer, you don't need Uplay.
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Nihilistic Pessimist Apr 10 @ 4:26am 
Lol multiplayer? It's probably dead right?
|x|Sirius|x| Apr 10 @ 9:17am 
Originally posted by Aerial Reaper:
Lol multiplayer? It's probably dead right?
Pretty much, though often I see a few games still. Mostly I play mission coop with friends, so there is that, too.
[ESO]DarkArchon Apr 10 @ 1:04pm 
I haven't played the second, but reading the Steam recommendations for it makes me want to steer clear of it. The first one though is so full of bugs it's unplayable for me at the moment. It's actually a pretty good game, when it works...
Nihilistic Pessimist Apr 10 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by |x|Sirius|x|:
Yeah, Off-Mode is that "action-camera-y" mode where you do the crazy stunt flying.
Once you have that down, you'll almost always want fly in that mode.

It has some form of joystick deadzone settings, yes. However, since I use a gamepad hooked up via "x360ce" (xbox controller emulator), I can't say how those settings work, since I use that software to configure my deadzones and such.

Also, be aware that for online play, you need an Uplay account.
LAN works, though, so you could use Tunngle or Hamachi to connect to virtual LANs, if you don't have/want Uplay. I know for a fact that there is a HAWX room on Tunngle, for example.

Edit: For singleplayer, you don't need Uplay.

Do you fly in simplified controls or full control, where you can orient your plane in any way you so please?
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|x|Sirius|x| Apr 10 @ 5:03pm 
I always go "expert", of course. Especially the Off-mode is more than stupid with "casual" controls, because it pretty much defeats the whole point.
So yeah, full-on expert controls.
Nihilistic Pessimist Apr 10 @ 7:30pm 
You know that one move I was talking about earlier that you can only do in Assistance Off mode? You're trying to do a loop but once you get to the top of the loop you almost stall and then quickly go full throttle to regain control (this move can help you get right behind enemies on your tail if done right). What is that move? How do you do it? I keep failing it
|x|Sirius|x| Apr 10 @ 7:59pm 
Hmm, dunno about getting "behind" the enemy, fo that you would have to look at actual flight tactics. But I think I know what you mean:
You need speed, of course (duh)
Then you roll to one side, and hit full on the brake, pulling the stick towards you.
This will basically make the plane almost stop mid-air and turn it around in a full 180.
Hit the throttle to avoid stalling. You should now have your opponent in front of you.

This also works with just pulling up/pushing down + brakes, (in effect, a tight looping) but I found that "180" is pretty much all you need. In any case, correct braking + rolling is the key to those stunts. Too much, and you stall, too little, and you overshoot, making it useless.

Also depends heavily on the plane, ofc. Some are not really good for those stunts, as they are pretty unstable, making them stall fast. Others are too slow overall to effectively use those tactics in a dogfight.
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Nihilistic Pessimist Apr 10 @ 8:03pm 
Well for what I have in mind, rolling is not needed, just pitching up, and timing of throttle adjustment (based on where you are in the loop).

Also, can you do the Pugachev's Cobra maneuver in this game?
Nihilistic Pessimist Apr 10 @ 8:04pm 
For assistance-Off mode (wonky camera mode), I find it difficult to get on the tails of enemy jets. For me it's difficult to simultaneously keep track of your jet's orientation and position relative to the enemy.
Nihilistic Pessimist Apr 10 @ 8:11pm 
OK so 1:05 into this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sx5l9cScOA

That's the maneuver I was talking about.

The maneuver is also seen at 1:17 into the video
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|x|Sirius|x| Apr 10 @ 9:11pm 
Yeah, that's basically what I described, just without rolling (since you just do an upwards looping). You pull hard, brake hard(ish), and adjust. For that to work, though, your opponent would need to be fairly close to you already.
But yes, definitely doable. I have done similar loopings more or less by accident, meaning I just used "my" described tactic.

No clue about Pugachev, though, haha. That's one I don't know. I do know all the "standard" ones, and they do work to some extent, yes.

Edit:
Had a discussion about both games just now in another game's forums, and it appears HAWX 2 is not as bad as I made it out to be. So, next time it goes on sale, I may or may not give it a whirl - Will depend strongly on how much the -% is.
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Nihilistic Pessimist Apr 10 @ 10:16pm 
What do you mean the "standard" ones?
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