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♥Ashley♥ Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:03pm
Moderators refusing to work.
Hey guys so well i'm unhappy that it has come to this situation but it has. We're pretty unhappy with the COP update for a number of reasons. I'm going to discuss this further up in the thread. Due to this situation, myself and Jones are now refusing to moderate the forums anymore.

This DOES NOT mean go crazy, there will still be steam moderators on the forums at times.

We've recently being under a great deal of stress after the crimefest update. A number of death threats thrown at us as well as much more heavy moderation needed due to a huge increase in users breaking the rules. We are not paid and have been in a very stressful situation.

Why now?
A lot of people will be wondering why we didn't do this earlier, due to the recent safe release. A lot of things happened and Overkill admitted it wasn't managed very well. We we're hoping Overkill would learn from its mistakes regarding the last update and we were hoping they took these into consideration with the COP. We have a lot of issues regarding the release of the COP that shows they have NOT listened to user feedback at all.

The delays gave me hope that they had reworked the content of the safe in response to user feedback. This does not seem to be the case.

As of release the COP safe can provide 1 of 25 skins. This is what we expected. What i didn't expect is that these skins can be of varied quality and rarity. This is NOT acceptable and just expressed the lack of feedback taken into consideration.


The COP safe should have done like one of this.

1) Players could pick what weapon they wanted the skin for and the skin quality should have ALWAYS been mint condition. This would then be tradable. All skins would have either no skin boost or a boost. They would all be equal.

2) Players got all 25 skins in mint condition but the contents would not be tradable at all.

So what now?
I like to believe that i am not unreasonable but unfortunately the situation constantly degraded. We will no longer refuse to work if we are given a public interview with a member of Overkill. We want to be heard and see what Overkill are willing to do to fix the situation.

If Overkill decides to let us go as moderators it's something we are prepared for, i personally cannot sit by when they continue to promote immoral business practices. I felt the skins system needed work but could function. The recent safe update showed against that.

I'm very sorry that it has come to this situation but the stress we have had to manage with, coupled with our unhappiness with the situation has pushed us to make this choice. I am not sure what Tessio feels about this so please do not insult, attack or involve him unless he wants to be involved.

Edit: Tessio has also agreed to join us.


"...crafted with love and care"
*Gets broken in skin.*


Update
We have a meeting for wednesday 6pm. Sweden time.
Last edited by ♥Ashley♥; Nov 16, 2015 @ 7:48am
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Vipes Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:16pm 
I don't blame you.
DOY Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:16pm 
"Your Opinion. My Choice"
You deserve the break Ashley.
Slypear Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:16pm 
Originally posted by Good Mythical Anal:
Originally posted by EnclaveCole:
Get a interview with Almir and Ulf Andeeson then call Goldfarb to come into the interview.
At this point, I would think Goldfarb and Ulf would turn on Almir. Rob him of his DLC money.

Ye :I

As they should.
Rad Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:16pm 
Welcome aboard I hope you got a pleasant fly.

But seriously, Ashley, Everybody will stay with you on this and you should pin this
Vipes Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:16pm 
What's even more weird is that all the skins reguardless of quality or anything, is worth the same. So people can't even buy a good game with the♥♥♥♥♥♥that was dealt.
Seven Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:17pm 
Good on you.
Athener Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:17pm 
Biggest gratitude, upmost respect to the mods.
DrunkenQueen Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:17pm 
+1
Support

And we're also with you, Jones.
Last edited by DrunkenQueen; Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:18pm
Paradigm Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:17pm 
Well i'll be honest, i've been a bit ranty, not happy in the slightest, this safe business is unnaceptable and looks like it will continue to be so for the forseeable future, I was on the fence about dropping the game but now you have firmly nailed the coffin and shot the man doing the nailing, probably taking his hammer as you did so. Well done OVk, you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s.

To Ashley and the other mods on the forums, I am very sorry that any of this has come down on your shoulders as it never should have done so. However it seems that you are on the pointy end of OVK's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ business practices, I am glad to see you are taking a stand.
leadmecca Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:18pm 
The dollars, always the dollars. I hate OVK more then ever, but sadly I hate Bethesda far more right now.
A Flying Brick Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by *.):
Just Wow Peeps.

100% respect for you guys.
Couldn't of said it better myself.

Overkill, Stop ♥♥♥♥ing Up. It's not that hard.
I'm like at the top of Tenpenny Tower, and y'all are in Megaton.

You all know how that went.
Last edited by Ћ Abomination Jones; Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:19pm
Basset Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:19pm 
Thanks guys. I don't follow these forums often but I appreciate this move.
Originally posted by Athener:
Biggest gratitude, upmost respect to the mods.
Sanjuaro Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:19pm 
It's such a pity to see how far detached Overkill/Starbreeze are from their community.
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