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Migi Jan 18, 2017 @ 8:20pm
Meth Helper?
I don't know if there's a guide or thread about this but are meth helpers fine or still considered cheating? I was playing in a lobby and saw the ingredients in the chat. We got a few bags because of it, could I also get it without getting into trouble?
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You can without trouble, but you don't need it.
Zdann Jan 18, 2017 @ 8:23pm 
I really don't understand the point of the mod. Bain always tells you the right thing if you just wait a few seconds.
Migi Jan 18, 2017 @ 8:23pm 
Originally posted by ⊕ĦX⊕ Mr.Xavier:
You can without trouble, but you don't need it.
Yeah it's not hard to wait a few seconds until you KNOW the ingredient. I'm just tired of people coming into my lobby and blowing up the lab because of not knowing.
Sentient_Toaster Jan 18, 2017 @ 8:32pm 
Host's call. If you're running the lobby, your call.

Originally posted by Zdann:
I really don't understand the point of the mod. Bain always tells you the right thing if you just wait a few seconds.

This. It doesn't really matter that much in the scheme of things. It grants a minor advantage, but a pretty small one -- lobbies without it still normally go pretty smoothly. Maybe you literally don't hear Bain clear enough the first time because there's too much gunfire or whatever, so you wait until he says another set of three lines. Doesn't take much to explain to new players that they should always wait for the third line, that it's always correct, and that they shouldn't jump in on somebody else's batch.

It's not like you're using mods to make players do more damage or assault waves weaker somehow or whatever.
Migi Jan 18, 2017 @ 8:36pm 
Originally posted by Sentient_Toaster:
Host's call. If you're running the lobby, your call.

Originally posted by Zdann:
I really don't understand the point of the mod. Bain always tells you the right thing if you just wait a few seconds.

This. It doesn't really matter that much in the scheme of things. It grants a minor advantage, but a pretty small one -- lobbies without it still normally go pretty smoothly. Maybe you literally don't hear Bain clear enough the first time because there's too much gunfire or whatever, so you wait until he says another set of three lines. Doesn't take much to explain to new players that they should always wait for the third line, that it's always correct, and that they shouldn't jump in on somebody else's batch.

It's not like you're using mods to make players do more damage or assault waves weaker somehow or whatever.
Yeah I get it, it's just I always ask before I use certain mods.
Originally posted by Zombie591712:
Originally posted by ⊕ĦX⊕ Mr.Xavier:
You can without trouble, but you don't need it.
Yeah it's not hard to wait a few seconds until you KNOW the ingredient. I'm just tired of people coming into my lobby and blowing up the lab because of not knowing.

Ask them if they know hoe to cook, if they don't, tell them to not pick any item.

If they don't know and screw things up, teach them, don't kick them. Be friendly with them.



Unless it's mayhem or above
Some meth helpers will actively stop you from blowing up a lab hosted by a cheater so no
Holyrockpay Jan 18, 2017 @ 9:50pm 
They are not considered cheating as it only offers a couple of seconds of difference to what a player without the mod would be able to do. For more clarifaction of if things are mods or cheats please refer to the rules on modding, linked here
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/15/412448158149601507/
naii_ Jan 18, 2017 @ 10:34pm 
It makes ♥♥♥♥ off faster, which is good considering how much time it consumes
Adam^2 Jan 18, 2017 @ 11:58pm 
There is no reason not to use Meth Helper.

Unless, of course, you enjoy scrubs blowing up your meth labs.
Draza Jan 19, 2017 @ 12:41am 
It's not a cheat, but cooking is really easy, even more than it already was before the lines got updated.
Terminator01 Jan 19, 2017 @ 1:06am 
Originally posted by Zombie591712:
Originally posted by ⊕ĦX⊕ Mr.Xavier:
You can without trouble, but you don't need it.
Yeah it's not hard to wait a few seconds until you KNOW the ingredient. I'm just tired of people coming into my lobby and blowing up the lab because of not knowing.

People who are dumb enough to blow up the lab by instantly add a random ingredient will still blow up the lab if this cheat mod will spam your chat.

I already had 2 people with this ♥♥♥♥ few days ago who got kicked instantly.
BitsOfSkin Jan 19, 2017 @ 1:10am 
Originally posted by Adam^2:
There is no reason not to use Meth Helper.

Unless, of course, you enjoy scrubs blowing up your meth labs.

This, by the FSM's meatballs, THIS.
Although, with all the former USSR state players who use their own localisations because 'no spek egnlis' (of variations of that), not to mention some of the utterly retarded German, Dutch and French players...
Well let's just say i tell players to keep their mits off the ingredients, and that this is the one map where i won't kick them for killwhoring like Sirs.
Just let me cook, you can kill everything that moves.
Last edited by BitsOfSkin; Jan 19, 2017 @ 1:12am
Bindal Jan 19, 2017 @ 1:19am 
Originally posted by Adam^2:
There is no reason not to use Meth Helper.

Unless, of course, you enjoy scrubs blowing up your meth labs.
There is a reason: You don't suck at cooking.
BitsOfSkin Jan 19, 2017 @ 2:02am 
Originally posted by Bindal:
Originally posted by Adam^2:
There is no reason not to use Meth Helper.

Unless, of course, you enjoy scrubs blowing up your meth labs.
There is a reason: You don't suck at cooking.

And then the scrubs blow the lab when you're not looking.
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Date Posted: Jan 18, 2017 @ 8:20pm
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