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F1rEsHoT Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:15am
Why can't AI carry loot bags?
Basically, if I'm playing offline why do the AI characters not carry loot bags when you grab one? Seems stupid that the police and grab them and run off, but to complete the level sometimes I have to do 6 runs instead of 2 simply because AI lack the ability to lift a bag -.-

Unless I'm missing something obvious in which case please help :D
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F1rEsHoT Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:20am 
Ok so you're not getting the point.


'If I'm playing OFFLINE'
Idiot. My laptop can play this when I'm on the move... Seriously why did you even comment
Victus Mortuus Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:21am 
The game isn't meant for offline to be honest.
F1rEsHoT Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:22am 
Don't reply if you have nothing helpful to add.
Oberst DaKillah Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:22am 
it is because the game is based around coop with others. the game in the first place wasn't going to have any AI to play with but people wanted them in so they were added to revive you and shoot the cops.

another reason why they aren't meant to carry any bags is that coding them to do so without screwing up would be too hard.
F1rEsHoT Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:24am 
But from coding point of view, its already in place, as I said the police AI can grab bags and bring them to a spot, how hard can it be to copy and paste that but change the drop location to the drop off point?
Hazode Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:27am 
I think it would make solo TOO easy, don't get me wrong, some heists are hardly a walk in park when you're a lone Wolf, but if the AI could pick up bags, I'd honestly solo a LOT more than I currently do, and I already solo about 70% of the time.
Fire Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by Hazode:
I think it would make solo TOO easy, don't get me wrong, some heists are hardly a walk in park when you're a lone Wolf, but if the AI could pick up bags, I'd honestly solo a LOT more than I currently do, and I already solo about 70% of the time.

Or, maybe you could shout at AI to pick up bags. You can make them come to you, and revive people, so why not have maybe, 1 of them pick up a bag at a time?
F1rEsHoT Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:29am 
Ya the first 30 levels would be a wake through, but as the missions get harder it would still be a challenge as the AI are not as good as another player (for most part) and it would expand who would play this, i mostly play online with mates but I like the option of playing offline when im on the move
The Combat Medic Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by F1rEsHoT:
But from coding point of view, its already in place, as I said the police AI can grab bags and bring them to a spot, how hard can it be to copy and paste that but change the drop location to the drop off point?
Because the cops are programmed to take the bags far away to a random location so you have a hard time getting it back. Team AI have bad pathfinding and if they take the long way around, like in the middle of the street, and get downed, you'd run to the forums complaining about how the bots don't take the shortest route and keep getting your bags dropped near the cops.
Oberst DaKillah Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:30am 
because what happens when you throw any of the bags to the corner of the store in diamond heist. the AI would go and pick them up and go for the predetermined point which is 1 out of 3 possibilities on that map. so now they go out and get gunned down with the bags and you can't revive them.

it is easier to not have them carry any bags than start making strings of codes to take everything into account and create new commands for player to order the AI around which isn't possible due to restrictions on controllers so they would have to start recoding and that would waste time.

then as the AI wasn't going to be in the game in the first place so they decided not to put any more effort into them than that.
F1rEsHoT Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:31am 
Its not random locations, every hiest has set points where the cops leave bags. We use it on jewelary heists cause they help lol

And I'm not saying it would be perfect, but it would be better than having to constantly run back and forth
F1rEsHoT Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:31am 
Could even have it they grab bags and simply follow you. You shout to pick up and shout to drop bags
Victus Mortuus Aug 16, 2013 @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by F1rEsHoT:
Don't reply if you have nothing helpful to add.

Apologies. Bad day, you know?

ohbitchuary Aug 26, 2013 @ 9:40am 
I agree with F1rEsHoT, i think it cant be that hard to make your AI "buddies" carry some loot, even it you could "shout" at a bag and basically give them the command to pick it up and where to drop it.
I am playing online with some randomers and trying to do rats properly but all those ♥♥♥♥♥♥s decide to mess up the cook and blow themselfes up (idiots), I get all the meth bring it to the car. On the escape mission I bring the bags to the helicopter and throw them into the excape space and carry one. as i go to the deal I only have one bag with me. It is impossible to complete alone.
Hazode Aug 26, 2013 @ 10:08am 
Originally posted by oh♥♥♥♥♥uary:
I agree with F1rEsHoT, i think it cant be that hard to make your AI "buddies" carry some loot, even it you could "shout" at a bag and basically give them the command to pick it up and where to drop it.
I am playing online with some randomers and trying to do rats properly but all those ♥♥♥♥♥♥s decide to mess up the cook and blow themselfes up (idiots), I get all the meth bring it to the car. On the escape mission I bring the bags to the helicopter and throw them into the excape space and carry one. as i go to the deal I only have one bag with me. It is impossible to complete alone.

It's not impossible, you have to throw the bags INTO the chopper, leaving them in the escape zone doesn't count.
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