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PJ Bottoms Jan 23 @ 4:14am
The simple reason Infamy breaks the game.
Because it now REWARDS players for doing sh!tty speedruns/exp farming.

Why cook the meth in Rats? Why get the weapons to the van in firestarter when the fire is closer? Why take time to stealth banks and open all the deposit boxes?
These things were already an issue in the game, and now again, Overkill is actually REWARDING players for using these crappy gameplay methods.

Yeah yeah you can still "play solo if you don't like it" but last I checked this was designed as a multiplayer coop game.

So GG Overkill on a horrible decision yet again.
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Soulessfaith Jan 23 @ 4:17am 
we need more heists not stupid new cosmetic stuff, right now the game is just boring as it's nothing but a grindfest to 100 and this new system encourages peopel to just speedrun, i mean yeah sure it's free but who the ♥♥♥♥ cares, it's a stupid decision by overkill who have yet to even fulfill on thier original safe house customization
Jyeil Jan 23 @ 4:19am 
Just host your own game, and kick players who doesn't follow your instructions. Stop crying about how new FREE content "breaks" the game.
Un!ted2o [GER] Jan 23 @ 4:20am 
@PJ Bottoms and Ditzy Doo...

+1...
For told reasons.

New weapons, masks, patterns, skills are nice to have...
but missions are what the game NEEDS.
[Force]Flawless Jan 23 @ 4:20am 
So progressing in game as a team to reach higher levels is not something you like then. You just want to stay at lvl 100 and grind for money?
Prince Drew III of Meltania Jan 23 @ 4:20am 
They're releasing more things. this was probably the easiest thing to release first since a lot of people were level 100 already. Also, the infamy system does encourage people to grab all the guns in firestarter and cook meth in rats because you need 200,000,000 to advance into infamy. It's not perfect, but just give it time. More content will come. I'm hoping for a harder heist with a higher XP payout.
sGs.Teratai Jan 23 @ 4:27am 
Keep in mind there are separate teams working on different parts of the game, so of course different content is going to be released at different intervals.
Henk Jan 23 @ 4:34am 
How exactly does infamy cause this? I am level 100 right now (blew all my offshore so it's farming time) and there is pretty much nothing for me to do but farm masks and achies. After about level 40-50 there is nothing new to the game; you just grind to max level. This at least gives me some reason to play the game and have a sense of progression (whether I farm Rats because the exp is scewed ridiculously).
Softy Jan 23 @ 4:52am 
Farmers farm, Grinders grind, Cheaters cheat. So ♥♥♥♥ing what? Everybody should be allowed to play this game exactly as they wish. They paid good money for it. It does not "brake" the game.

That being said, I do think that cheaters should only play with other cheaters, because many of us don't want the easy money.
[KMs] Raul Jan 23 @ 5:05am 
yeah for sure. Speedrun provides so much teamplay, strategy and reaction/accuracy. They will get ♥♥♥♥ed if they become infamous. it's what i think. and we do not need another topic talking about speedruns...
PJ Bottoms Jan 23 @ 5:07am 
Originally posted by Jyeil:
Just host your own game, and kick players who doesn't follow your instructions. Stop crying about how new FREE content "breaks" the game.

And that's exactly why this sucks. I stopped playing pub games entirely because everyone just seems to exp farm and if you don't you get kicked immediately.

I now am lucky enough to have a dedicated party of four to play the game with, but a lot of others aren't so lucky and this directly effects those people.

And what was I thinking, sharing an opinion on a message board. Should have known better there would be people like you who would immediately view it as "crying" as opposed to making a simple observation. But I suppose being that's the first impression you had, you personally do the same often. That's usually how these things work. ;)
Welding Jan 23 @ 8:39am 
Dont forget you also need 200 mille offshore money.

Thats a lot of offshore money.
Cybergate Jan 23 @ 8:47am 
People make this problem seem way bigger than it is, the only heist that people are "speedrunning" is Rats, because it's the quickest xp farm in the game.

@OP, just because people won't lug the weapons to the van, or because they don't want to pick all the boxes for 15 minutes doesn't make them farmers, it just means they have no desire to obtain more money, because it becomes worthless past a certain point.
Sir Dick Drizzle Jan 23 @ 8:49am 
Originally posted by Welding:
Dont forget you also need 200 mille offshore money.

Thats a lot of offshore money.

200 Mil in offshore at level 100 is an absolute pittance.
Sir Dick Drizzle Jan 23 @ 8:51am 
Originally posted by Ditzy Doo:
we need more heists not stupid new cosmetic stuff, right now the game is just boring as it's nothing but a grindfest to 100 and this new system encourages peopel to just speedrun, i mean yeah sure it's free but who the ♥♥♥♥ cares, it's a stupid decision by overkill who have yet to even fulfill on thier original safe house customization

Yeah, because the level designers are the same people who designed the infamy system. Herpity derp.
TrainCrashDerby Jan 23 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by Sir ♥♥♥♥ Drizzle:
Originally posted by Ditzy Doo:
we need more heists not stupid new cosmetic stuff, right now the game is just boring as it's nothing but a grindfest to 100 and this new system encourages peopel to just speedrun, i mean yeah sure it's free but who the ♥♥♥♥ cares, it's a stupid decision by overkill who have yet to even fulfill on thier original safe house customization

Yeah, because the level designers are the same people who designed the infamy system. Herpity derp.


Why should it matter to the consumer who does what with in their studio. They havnt delivered on everything on the store page after over 5 months. They have made millions on this game. They should hire some more frigging employees to make the levels, not exscuses. How long should we willing to wait? A year? 2 years? 6 months is long enough.
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