Zury Jul 3, 2013 @ 10:57pm
What's with all the crying about lack of CO-OP ?
CO-OP would be nice ... but not for this type of game..
pvp co-op ... basically you have 2 buddies fighting 2 other guys .. how would you think this would work ? turn based 1 for each team ? it's like having a normal 1 player vs another player game ... but with the annoyance of having your buddy move 1 or your mercs instead of yourself .
it's not like he can go scout because is limited by the concept of TURN BASED play..
competitive pvp ? 1 guy with the plan ... the puppet master... evil genious w/e makes the battle plan ... ok interupt trap behind the red building to block off that path .. i move the interupt trap merc there myself or i tell lil' Jimmy (my co-op buddy) to move him there .. he either does that or he goes running trough the mid shouting YOLO or whatnot and makes us lose the game ..

so it's either me playing alone versus another guy ... with me controlling all mercs or :
me and my buddy vs 2 other "victims" ... with me controlling 1 merc and telling my buddy what to do and where to go with his merc..

where is the benefit/advantage of CO-OP ? um nowhere ? because the TURN BASED style does not allow this kind of cooperation to work

the way i see it is peeps that ask for co-op are like peeps that go to the fish market and complain nobody is selling chickens ...

if it would add to the game .. i would ask for it also
but it can't be done because of limitations ... that is why fallout tactics had Continous Turn Based CTB instead of just Turn Based TB ..

so please .. before you say omg this has no co-op .. we need co-op .. think on how it would integrate with the game ... i want flying mounts in counter strike because i have one in WOW ..but it's not gonna happen ...

stop and smell the flowers ... and enjoy things as they are...
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[__h.stickeye_] Jul 4, 2013 @ 4:57am 
too...many...words.
Zury Jul 4, 2013 @ 12:31pm 
i feel sorry for you son ...
i got 99 problems but reading ain't one ...

maybe if i express myself in lyrics or use colorfull pictures ?
maybe it will help?
[__h.stickeye_] Jul 4, 2013 @ 5:43pm 
you certainly are not helping me want to read your post...
wk37781 Jul 6, 2013 @ 10:48am 
co-op is what people want and it could be done with this type of gameplay. Yes both teams would go at the same time, but they would have their own mercs to move. It would be just like the way pvp is now but on a larger scale. Secondly the Dev's asked for some suggestions and it looks like co-op is at the top of the list, so..even though everyone is intitled to their opion , yours is unwellcomed cause it's filled with unconstructive trolling, Your useless post is like someone bopping and singing along with a band but the only one doing it saying " yeah this band rocks" NOT ..stop and smell the roses? please.. there isnt a rule that says this game couldn't be unique in this way then any other tactical turn-based.I'll still like the game the way it is regardless if the changes are made but i sure do hope they make those changes. not for me but so that other will enjoy it more
Quark02 Jul 6, 2013 @ 11:12am 
Stickeye, he says in his post that co-op would be difficult to implement. That's about it.

What he does not comprehend is that there are plenty of turn-based tactics/strategy games that have working co-op (Battle of Wesnoth for one; Jagged Alliance: Deadly Games enabled co-op but had few pre-made missions for it. Fortunately you could make your own to play Jagged Alliance as a co-op game, say with a friend or a brother).
Zury Jul 7, 2013 @ 1:46am 
someones mad for little reason :D

so ya... both teams 1 turn ... one buddy will have to follow the other buddy's instruction ..multytasking for 1 guy .. where is the fun part there ?
if you think this type of implementation can be a defining feature of the game and be worthy of beeing called co-op experience .. "yeah this band rocks !"

where was the unconstuctive trolling that you mentioned ? besides me beeing snarky at the guy that has no time to read?



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Gus Jul 8, 2013 @ 1:45am 
isn't it advertised as MMO or whatever ? What's the point of having a MMO if CO-OP is not feasible ? At least I can hire Mercs, what is the difference ?
What is wrong with people defending 'ban to' something that would be uberly cool as an option (so you know, I have been playing with my gf and we've been doing all together, and that would be better to control each a merc or two or three or ... yeah whatever 'that band is not cool' ? What is the matter with the parents today ?
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wk37781 Jul 8, 2013 @ 5:19am 
not mad. just saying your post is useless noise, and if you took your time reading you would know they already had co-op in this game but took it out for finacial reasons. and the Cliffhanger band is cool . you missread what i said. I'm saying your alone on the idea that co-op is not a good idea
wk37781 Jul 8, 2013 @ 5:33am 
and who would want to co-op with someone that tells them what to do and what moves to make all the time?some people work well to gether, others dont . and these type of games are all about multi tasking thats why people play, with controlling more then one char to upgrading quarters is multi tasking. So your analogy with the fish market and chicken for those who promote co-op doesnt apply to them, it's not like their asking for a magical flying pony like you mentioned. So I responded.. isn't that what you wanted?
Cliffhanger Tech  [developer] Jul 8, 2013 @ 6:18am 
Originally posted by wk37781:
if you took your time reading you would know they already had co-op in this game but took it out for finacial reasons.
Just so that nobody gets a wrong idea from this. As written here Lack of Coop we didn't have it already implemented but planned to do it instead of pvp, due to external circumstances this didn't happen.
Gus Jul 8, 2013 @ 6:25am 
Originally posted by Cliffhanger Tech:
Just so that nobody gets a wrong idea from this. As written here Lack of Coop we didn't have it already implemented but planned to do it instead of pvp, due to external circumstances this didn't happen.
Could there by any 'internal' motivation to release such mode in the future ?
primetide_dev  [developer] Jul 8, 2013 @ 1:13pm 
yes, since people want it. but it is the most work of all the desired features from users, which means it is a longer way off and the most expensive to do for us...
Arngrim Jul 8, 2013 @ 5:08pm 
Buy gold ... errr cash... ♥♥♥♥♥ez and support the devs if you want Co-op!
Gus Jul 9, 2013 @ 2:47am 
Originally posted by primetide:
yes, since people want it. but it is the most work of all the desired features from users, which means it is a longer way off and the most expensive to do for us...
I will contribute through buying some gold, and I would pay for such a feature. Actually, such feature should not be free (moreover if it brings new netcode for the devs).
Quark02 Jul 9, 2013 @ 5:33am 
Originally posted by neijma:
Actually, such feature should not be free (moreover if it brings new netcode for the devs).
Then they'd have to lose the Free2Play in the title and really call it a demo. As a F2P, at least one game mode (single-player AND/OR multiplayer should be available without mandatory fee). That would be a boon on getting the title out there for more players, hence getting smaller revenue. Even now people say it should be a demo, not a F2P title as campaign missions are mostly not free, but it is fine as multiplayer is free and without limitations (free players have the same chances as paying players. Right now the problem is less the amount of money and more the number of players. Co-op would increase this dramatically.
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