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MasterZalm Nov 13, 2013 @ 9:03am
Not a full game? More like a Demo.
So this is now a free game, but its only allowing you to access 1 level of the game...so its not a full game. A Full game is just that...full game. It means access to all of the attributes of the game. Levels, mechanics, options, gearing, everything. This game is essentially a demo since we only have access to a small portion of the game, but full game mechanics.

If I let you play world 1-1 of Mario, where you have access to the games full mechanics, all of the powerups, but ONLY let you play world 1-1, would anyone consider that a full game?
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ReBoot Nov 13, 2013 @ 10:05am 
It's the usual freemium stuff, I'd say.
node357 Nov 13, 2013 @ 10:40am 
this approach again? i predict by next month steam will feature "free to play" games that let you play 10 seconds per day. this is getting way out of hand.
ReBoot Nov 13, 2013 @ 10:40am 
As a customer, you have a strong power: your wallet. If you feel that this freemium model is getting out of hand, don't pay.
node357 Nov 13, 2013 @ 10:42am 
roger that!
♛LordP€dr☺Dark♛ Nov 13, 2013 @ 11:24am 
Spent good money just for the game itself, and then spent even more money on dlc for a unfinished product, dev's don't even know what free to play means, but hey im pretty happy that they didn't allow free to play ppl play the whole game without paying, that would be just even more stupid for the ppl who actually bought this crap when it was p2p.
They gave me nothing but a slap on mine and other's face's that bought this game with dlc, since now ppl can buy this game for a lot cheaper price with everything that i paid for.
El Tango Bandito Nov 13, 2013 @ 1:21pm 
It is a demo, you're right. They should change the label of f2p to demo.
ФDeadEyeФ Nov 13, 2013 @ 1:59pm 
It's 5$ for the all access pass if you want the other levels, and the way it is right now with gold earning rate you can have everything you want in a few hours. There's always someone crying and moaning about something that's free. Obviously you don't enjoy it enough to spend 5 bucks, or you would have. All I see here is more entitled little boys who don't understand how the world and business works.

m4xc4v413r4 Nov 13, 2013 @ 2:38pm 
well, if it's not a full game then i want my money back because i had it before it was free

edit:. i spoke too soon, aparetly they made the game "free" and gave me (that had the game before) an all acess pass or whatever you call it, so i guess it's still a full game for me
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node357 Nov 13, 2013 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by DeadEye:
All I see here is more entitled little boys who don't understand how the world and business works.
we're entitled to not have our time wasted by false advertising, thanks. and stop parrotting that word like every other angry gamer bro clone on the net every time someone has a legitimate complaint about something, please.
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Kyubashi Nov 13, 2013 @ 3:41pm 
Can't we just change the entire name of the game to DemoLand then?
ϟ Ericz Nov 13, 2013 @ 5:03pm 
Originally posted by Kyubashi~:
Can't we just change the entire name of the game to DemoLand then?

LOL this was the perfect post
♛LordP€dr☺Dark♛ Nov 13, 2013 @ 5:07pm 
Originally posted by DeadEye:
It's 5$ for the all access pass if you want the other levels, and the way it is right now with gold earning rate you can have everything you want in a few hours. There's always someone crying and moaning about something that's free. Obviously you don't enjoy it enough to spend 5 bucks, or you would have. All I see here is more entitled little boys who don't understand how the world and business works.

You're the only one who clearly doesn't understand how buisness works. They made this thing of f2p only to get more money from ppl's wallet's this isn't a f2p game, they just made it like a demo, so they can screw more ppl and take their money's and give an unfinished product. Me and other ppl are complaining because we payed lot more money when this game was p2p than ppl that buy the full acess now, wich is more than unfair and it's like dev's giving us the middle finger, they didn't even care about us that payed far more money than ppl who bought it now, that we actually supported them and they don't even apreciate that, and they don't reward us with anything, for not talking about the fact that we need to spend even more money just to get their stupid freaking steam cards.
Paradox didn't even bother to fix bugs and to optimize this game, just a lazy company that want just money and money. Im glad that they closed for once, they represented brasil in gaming industry, and they did it really badly, they didn't even bother what their gamers though about their games.
You say that we're "Crying", but if it was you, im pretty sure you would be "crying and moaning", because of a company stole you money, and don't even care about you...
And yeah, if you didn't know this game was p2p and was ment to be p2p forever, but since they saw that nobody was playing their game anymore (since it was unfinished), they made this new "strategy" of making ppl think that this game is f2p, when actually it's just like a demo that make's you want to buy the full product and give them money.
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MancSoulja Nov 13, 2013 @ 7:45pm 
Originally posted by lordpedrodark:
Originally posted by DeadEye:
It's 5$ for the all access pass if you want the other levels, and the way it is right now with gold earning rate you can have everything you want in a few hours. There's always someone crying and moaning about something that's free. Obviously you don't enjoy it enough to spend 5 bucks, or you would have. All I see here is more entitled little boys who don't understand how the world and business works.

You're the only one who clearly doesn't understand how buisness works. They made this thing of f2p only to get more money from ppl's wallet's this isn't a f2p game, they just made it like a demo, so they can screw more ppl and take their money's and give an unfinished product. Me and other ppl are complaining because we payed lot more money when this game was p2p than ppl that buy the full acess now, wich is more than unfair and it's like dev's giving us the middle finger, they didn't even care about us that payed far more money than ppl who bought it now, that we actually supported them and they don't even apreciate that, and they don't reward us with anything, for not talking about the fact that we need to spend even more money just to get their stupid freaking steam cards.
Paradox didn't even bother to fix bugs and to optimize this game, just a lazy company that want just money and money. Im glad that they closed for once, they represented brasil in gaming industry, and they did it really badly, they didn't even bother what their gamers though about their games.
You say that we're "Crying", but if it was you, im pretty sure you would be "crying and moaning", because of a company stole you money, and don't even care about you...
And yeah, if you didn't know this game was p2p and was ment to be p2p forever, but since they saw that nobody was playing their game anymore (since it was unfinished), they made this new "strategy" of making ppl think that this game is f2p, when actually it's just like a demo that make's you want to buy the full product and give them money.

You and alot of idiots in this forums need to educate yourself on what the F2P model actually is. Before you start ♥♥♥♥♥ing like children. The OP's description is wholly inaccurate and describes the MMO F2P model only. This was taken from the F2P page on WIKI and describes this game to a tee. Meaning the model used by the devs is not only fair but used by a number of other devs!

"Some games have both a free version, and a pay-to-play version that offers the full version of the game and all available updates. Free-to-play games with pay-to-play components utilize the freebie marketing technique to draw in a user base with this advanced type of game demo. "
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crunchyfrog Nov 13, 2013 @ 9:32pm 
Originally posted by lordpedrodark:
Spent good money just for the game itself, and then spent even more money on dlc for a unfinished product, dev's don't even know what free to play means, but hey im pretty happy that they didn't allow free to play ppl play the whole game without paying, that would be just even more stupid for the ppl who actually bought this crap when it was p2p.
They gave me nothing but a slap on mine and other's face's that bought this game with dlc, since now ppl can buy this game for a lot cheaper price with everything that i paid for.

I never understand this sort of comment, no offence personally intended.

It is the nature of things to get cheaper as time goes by - it happens in ALL markets. So, whether cheaper or totally free, it makes no difference. If you paid an amount for it AT THE TIME that was a good deal to you, then that should be the end of it.
MasterZalm Nov 13, 2013 @ 11:19pm 
Originally posted by MancSoulja:
You and alot of idiots in this forums need to educate yourself on what the F2P model actually is. Before you start ♥♥♥♥♥ing like children. The OP's description is wholly inaccurate and describes the MMO F2P model only. This was taken from the F2P page on WIKI and describes this game to a tee. Meaning the model used by the devs is not only fair but used by a number of other devs!

"Some games have both a free version, and a pay-to-play version that offers the full version of the game and all available updates. Free-to-play games with pay-to-play components utilize the freebie marketing technique to draw in a user base with this advanced type of game demo. "

A game shouldnt be available in the free to play section where the only games in it are free to play ful fledged games. This is not a full game while it is free to play, its only part of the game. Even the steam page says the game isnt full and accessing the full and entire game must be done so through purchases. When a game allows you to play a part of its entirety, its called a demo. This is a demo, not a full game. It needs to be placed in the demo section, not the F2P section.
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