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Clownmat 2013년 11월 13일 오전 1시 11분
Trading Cards Issues and Game Versions Clarification
Hi!
Seems like the trading cards didn't go live as planned yesterday, we're looking into that right now!

And just for clarity sake, there are the differences between the different versions of the game:

Free Pass - the full game, but with only one level available (DM Tower)
All Access Pass - Full game, with all levels (this is the same version as the old game, so if you bought the game before, this is the version you have now)
Collection - Full game, all stages, plus all the Grimoire Pack and some item - and wepaons packs.

We realized that it's not 100% clear what the differences are on the store page, so we're updating that as well!
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milknorf1469 2013년 11월 13일 오전 7시 09분 
Thanks for the update :)
ϟ Ericz 2013년 11월 13일 오전 7시 58분 
Clownmat님이 먼저 게시:
Free Pass - the full game, but with only one level available

That's the meaning of DEMO, it was never to be named Free to Play.
Why these guys are now doing this console crap on PC games?
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Clownmat 2013년 11월 13일 오전 8시 44분 
ϟ Ericz님이 먼저 게시:
That's the meaning of DEMO
Not necessarily. A demo is usually limited in how long you can play it, and is made specially to showcase some of the games features. The free to play-version has all the features, but only one level, and you can play it forever if you like.
MasterZalm 2013년 11월 13일 오전 8시 52분 
ϟ Ericz님이 먼저 게시:
Clownmat님이 먼저 게시:
Free Pass - the full game, but with only one level available

That's the meaning of DEMO, it was never to be named Free to Play.
Why these guys are now doing this console crap on PC games?

This exactly. This isnt a full game when free players only get a portion of the game, while people who pay for the game get everything. A demo only allows access to a portion of the game, which is exactly what this game does. You only are alowed a portion of the full game, one level.

This isnt a free game, its a demo, and needs to be removed from the F2P section until they allow the full game to be free.

I'm putting in a ticket now.
ϟ Ericz 2013년 11월 13일 오전 11시 15분 
Clownmat님이 먼저 게시:
ϟ Ericz님이 먼저 게시:
That's the meaning of DEMO
Not necessarily. A demo is usually limited in how long you can play it, and is made specially to showcase some of the games features. The free to play-version has all the features, but only one level, and you can play it forever if you like.

You're wrong.
Demonstration versions can have all features for a limited time, some features for an unlimited time or whatever that doesn't let you have the whole experience, like being limited for just a level.

Your company is calling a demo as free to play, and it's not.
Free to play games let you have the whole experience without paying anything. At most premium features like boosts and skins. If the gaming experience is limited, it's a demo.
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Indelacio.co.uk 2013년 11월 13일 오후 2시 54분 
Do we not get trading cards with the all access version, it seems silly having already owned the game paid not to get trading cards now its free to play.
Clownmat 2013년 11월 14일 오전 12시 25분 
ϟ Ericz님이 먼저 게시:
If the gaming experience is limited, it's a demo.
I disagree that the gaming experience is limited, since the gaming experience of Dungeonland isn't about the maps. They do however add variation.

With that said, I see your point, even if I don't agree with it.

Clownmat 2013년 11월 14일 오전 12시 45분 
Indelacio.co.uk님이 먼저 게시:
Do we not get trading cards with the all access version, it seems silly having already owned the game paid not to get trading cards now its free to play.
Yes, you'll get trading cards when we get them launched! :)
ϟ Ericz 2013년 11월 14일 오전 2시 23분 
Clownmat님이 먼저 게시:
ϟ Ericz님이 먼저 게시:
If the gaming experience is limited, it's a demo.
I disagree that the gaming experience is limited, since the gaming experience of Dungeonland isn't about the maps. They do however add variation.

With that said, I see your point, even if I don't agree with it.

Sincerely, i never play the game, so yes, maybe i'm wrong.
I'm basing what i said on your own words trying to define it: "the full game, but with only one level available"

If the game experience and progression are based on levels, so i'm not wrong and it's a Demo version, doesn't matter our opinions. But if that levels are completely untied and you can progress regardless what level you're playing, then i'm wrong and maybe the label it's legitimate.
Clownmat 2013년 11월 14일 오전 7시 10분 
ϟ Ericz님이 먼저 게시:
But if that levels are completely untied and you can progress regardless what level you're playing, then i'm wrong and maybe the label it's legitimate.
Oh, no, you don't need the maps to progress! You can progress to max level on one map. All enemies and bosses available to the DM can be used regardless of maps, and defeating those is what gives you drops, gold and EXP to level up.
ϟ Ericz 2013년 11월 14일 오후 12시 03분 
Clownmat님이 먼저 게시:
ϟ Ericz님이 먼저 게시:
But if that levels are completely untied and you can progress regardless what level you're playing, then i'm wrong and maybe the label it's legitimate.
Oh, no, you don't need the maps to progress! You can progress to max level on one map. All enemies and bosses available to the DM can be used regardless of maps, and defeating those is what gives you drops, gold and EXP to level up.

Oh well, if it's that way... so i was wrong.
I have to play it to know, but for now my apologizes, cause it can have this label with no problem.
Baker Street Boyz 2013년 11월 14일 오후 12시 55분 
Quick question, I purchased a four pack a while ago for me and my friends before it turned F2P yet it says that I have no card drops remaining. I haven't had any drops, either. Is this a bug that will be corrected?

Also wanted to say that I really enjoy your game; the DM mode is brilliant! I hope to see more room additions in the future.
NeoInNervous 2013년 11월 14일 오후 5시 28분 
So... Where are the cards? o.o
1mirg 2013년 11월 14일 오후 7시 55분 
Fine, Since you cleared that up, I will replay this game again. Happy?
Clownmat 2013년 11월 15일 오전 1시 21분 
brokenpavement님이 먼저 게시:
Quick question, I purchased a four pack a while ago for me and my friends before it turned F2P yet it says that I have no card drops remaining. I haven't had any drops, either. Is this a bug that will be corrected?
Turns out the issue was more complicated than we expected, but we're doing everything we can to get those card drops going for the All Access-passes!
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