Nangleator Dec 21, 2012 @ 7:06am
Too hard for me.
I got my taste for gaming with Avalon Hill titles like Panzer Leader and Squad Leader. This game looked like it was custom made for me.

Just playing the scenarios, to learn the game, I got through the tutorial and the first German mission. I can't survive the first turn of the "easy" Race for Rostov. The best odds I can find on the map are 1:1, and that's apparently the cream of my tank troops against his weakest infantry... I can do some maneuvering, but instead of clipping his lines of supply, it runs my own units out of supply.

I'll go and watch somebody else play it on Youtube, but I'm positive it's not possible to avoid complete annihilation in that scenario. I daren't ever play any of the other missions.
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Golgo 13 Dec 21, 2012 @ 8:57am 
Race to Rostov is one of the few maps I've scored a brillant victory. Basically I held my line in the north to keep most of their troops stationed there. Then make my push in the south with my tanks. Then they'll start pulling troops from the north to deal with my tanks in the south. Easy victory after that. Just keep practicing, its a fun game.
Kyle Nichols Dec 23, 2012 @ 2:56pm 
It gets easier and easier. Until you start playing some of the Red Turn DLC scenarios like Bagration. Those are insane, but they can be beat.
Poor Life Decisions Dec 26, 2012 @ 5:38am 
Your playing that scenario like a typical Soviet general. Your infantry units (with some exceptions) should not be leading attacks. Use your armored forces in the south.

Each scenario is a puzzle. If you aren't winning you aren't playing right.
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Vaginus Dec 27, 2012 @ 9:41am 
for me aswell, meanwhile i am annoyed becourse you cant change the difficult level,
u cant turn the weather off, u cant save,.....

i know its called realism but why cant the user choose how realistic he wants to play? is this game developed by apple ?

cheers
v
Sir Hamsterliciousness, Esq. Dec 28, 2012 @ 3:13am 
Race to Rostov is one of the easier scenarios to get a brilliant victory on. There always is an element of luck, but engaging the Germans isn't something you want to initiate. Use your armor to push deep into the enemy lines and your cavalry to further cut their supply lines.

Don't engage in that giant mess in the center. Your armor is mostly on your flanks, whereas the enemy is not - use that to your advantage to get behind the enemy. If you're doing it right, a large body of the enemy force should be hamstrung to where you can either pick them off at your leisure or ignore them altogether.

If you're having problems with supply, make sure to use your theater ability wisely and to keep that southern rail line under control.
rudeboyskunk Dec 28, 2012 @ 4:30am 
I myself can't get through Edelweiss to save my life; it makes me feel even more dumb since it says "Easy." Is there a way to get more troops that I'm not aware of? I'm still trying to learn the difference between the troops; I've noticed guys with helmets are stronger than guys without helmets. I only attack cavalry and armored units with my own armored units.
WeDoNotSow Dec 28, 2012 @ 11:46pm 
rudeboyskunk, playing as the axis you should pay attention to the nationality. You often will have Romanian troops with you and these guys should not be used to attack. They really shouldnt be used to do anything other than hold the line or plug gaps. Almost always use the Germans for any attacks. And as others have said here, the tanks should lead any attack and the infantry should be there to fill in any gaps and encircle enemy units once the tanks have punched a hole in the line.

FOr the most parts units with helmets are your basic infantry, some are motorized infantry, which apparently can travel greater distances.

units with hats can be cavalry or mountain troops (jaeger in german) and other i guess other things. hope this helps a bit.
Apocalypse Jan 3, 2013 @ 7:09pm 
Originally posted by Nangleator:
Just playing the scenarios, to learn the game, I got through the tutorial and the first German mission. I can't survive the first turn of the "easy" Race for Rostov.

I was in the same boat.

It's a numbers game, but there is a necessity for tactics. Find a vulnerable enemy unit, penetrate the enemy lines with armored units, then exploit with cavalry or motorized troops.

Cutting supply is a MUST. I find myself analyzing supply lines more than the enemy. Once cut from supply, the enemy can only fire for one turn. After 3 turns they begin to lose strength. In some cases, isolating an enemy is the only way to destroy them.

Analyze your terrain. Attacking across a river is a bad idea and will almost always result in a negative outcome. Woods and cities also favor the defender. Use the zones of control, and attack with the lowest probable losses (sometimes you can only suppress, which will work)

Like I said, I was completely stuck on the first EASY mission. Now that I've learned the game mechanics, I'm on mission 14/17 on Red Turn and have only had issues with the first two missions.
masterchieflegend Jan 8, 2013 @ 5:04am 
Manuever, timing, and not being afraid to go out of supply yourself to cut your opponent. Every scenario up to Lenigrad (in the new DLC) is Brillant Victory. Some are a PAIN to get Brillant on, there are some if the weather turns against you to just not bother and start again (for Brillant only). Most scenarios are quite winable, but when first learning they may not seem so.
Lanark Jan 13, 2013 @ 1:13am 
To get a brilliant Victory, you must try a couple of times. Use different strategies. You can also use your prestige point, but dont wase them.
runequester Feb 9, 2013 @ 9:56am 
Soviet infantry generally can't take on Germans, but bear in mind that there's penalty of losing bodies. Sometimes the first unit will get chewed up, but the 2nd and 3rd will kill the fascists. I found it less "Gimmicky" than Panzer General but it's still a brutal game :)
Tobinius Feb 10, 2013 @ 10:56am 
Originally posted by Nangleator:
I got my taste for gaming with Avalon Hill titles like Panzer Leader and Squad Leader. This game looked like it was custom made for me.

You should take a look at Hearts of Iron, because this game reminds me so much of those Avalon Hill games (and others). If you buy Darkest Hour, you get HOI 2 complete as part of the package, and it is usually $4 during seasonal sales. I also like HOI 3, but I think Darkest Hour is the cheapest way to see if you like it.
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