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Fedor of Tippia Aug 19, 2013 @ 4:24pm
Tangyoon's PQ
Tangyoon's Cooking PQ Is extremely laggy and WILL D/C you in a few minutes. i was lucky to get HALFWAY into the partyquest before disconnecting. It'd be great if this was fixed, but knowing Nexon, It won't. They'll keep on adding stuff, like they usually do.
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Jamillia Aug 19, 2013 @ 5:07pm 
1. TPQ is not laggy for anyone I know.
2. Since there is no lag, there is no reason to fix it.
2.5. If there was a problem with any PQ, NX would immediately get to work on it and patch it with the next huge update.
3. You do not know Nexon. On the outside, they look like money hogging betches, but on the inside, they're working hard to maintain their game, because if they don't, they don't get the money that they have to become money hogging betches.
4. They mostly fix things. 70% of the time, it is bug fixes while 29% of the time it's new content, with the remaining 1% being website updates.
Fedor of Tippia Aug 19, 2013 @ 9:30pm 
Sure. You say that. Look at CA and tell me what you think. and a lot of people I know, it happens.
Edit: They look like Money hogging ♥♥♥♥♥es? They ARE money hogging ♥♥♥♥♥es.
Last edited by Fedor of Tippia; Aug 19, 2013 @ 9:31pm
SwordFishII Aug 19, 2013 @ 9:34pm 
You sound bitter.
Jamillia Aug 20, 2013 @ 5:53pm 
Originally posted by Chosen Undead, Slayer of Demons:
Sure. You say that. Look at CA and tell me what you think. and a lot of people I know, it happens.
Edit: They look like Money hogging ♥♥♥♥♥es? They ARE money hogging ♥♥♥♥♥es.
CA as in the state? I live in CA, therefore I think it's a swell place o-o. And I did say that the are 'money hogging ♥♥♥♥♥es.
Originally posted by Jamillia:
3. "... because if they don't, they don't get the money that they have to become money hogging betches."
Fedor of Tippia Aug 21, 2013 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by Jamillia:
Originally posted by Chosen Undead, Slayer of Demons:
Sure. You say that. Look at CA and tell me what you think. and a lot of people I know, it happens.
Edit: They look like Money hogging ♥♥♥♥♥es? They ARE money hogging ♥♥♥♥♥es.
CA as in the state? I live in CA, therefore I think it's a swell place o-o. And I did say that the are 'money hogging ♥♥♥♥♥es.
Originally posted by Jamillia:
3. "... because if they don't, they don't get the money that they have to become money hogging betches."
By CA I meant Combat Arms
SwordFishII Aug 21, 2013 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by Chosen Undead, Slayer of Demons:
Originally posted by Jamillia:
CA as in the state? I live in CA, therefore I think it's a swell place o-o. And I did say that the are 'money hogging ♥♥♥♥♥es.
By CA I meant Combat Arms
Because that was TOTALLY obvious. But CA is a completely different game, please explain to me the relevance it has to MS and it's PQ's?
OACMann Aug 21, 2013 @ 7:10pm 
Probable causes

1. Your PC / internet connection can't handle the PQ = Since a lot of monsters are being summoned, a lot of "load" are being sent to your computer, and a lot is being handled by your PC.

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Also @Jamilia

2.5 I don't know how long you've been playing the game, but that is absolutely FALSE.
3. Neither do you, the past 2 years, most the moves they made were geared towards money hogging, less maintaining.
4. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jamillia Aug 21, 2013 @ 7:54pm 
Originally posted by OACMann:
Also @Jamilia

2.5 I don't know how long you've been playing the game, but that is absolutely FALSE.
3. Neither do you, the past 2 years, most the moves they made were geared towards money hogging, less maintaining.
4. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!
2.5. I've been playing since beta. If you don't believe me, then it's not my problem.

3. I know enough about them to know that they are both money hogging and they are working on maintaining the game. If you were Nexon, would you a) work on maintaining the game or b) be money hogging betches 24/7.

If you chose B, then you are stupid. If they don't maintain the game, then they lose players. If they lose players, the stop being money hogging betches because they don't have any money to hog. If they they lose money, then they have to end MapleStory, like they did DFO.

4. http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/maintenance/bug-extermination-reports (40%)
4. http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/maintenance/ban-list (20%)
4. http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/updates/update-notes (20%)
4. http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/maintenance/announcements (20%)
Yes, I know the percentages aren't the same as in my previous comment, but I was exaggerating them.
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OACMann Aug 21, 2013 @ 8:32pm 
^Then based on history, you would know how long it takes them to fix rather important bugs/glitches. It's definitely not immediate.

If you call adding more bugs every update maintaining, be my guest. If you call failing to fix the more important bugs maintaining, be my guest. If you want to call banning innocent/harmless players maintaining, be my guest. If you call adding crappy updates maintaning, be my guest.

What are the things they don't fail at? Promoting NX related stuff. Even with glitches, they release these. I get it, they're a company, making money is they're goal, but this is ridiculous.

Reading the extermination reports made me laugh even more.

Jamillia Aug 21, 2013 @ 9:47pm 
Well, everything you do creates a bug. Finding them is the not-so-easy part of 'maintaining. What would be easier and faster to do: fixing small, non noticeable things (that may or may not improve game play), or fixing a bug that takes a lot of recoding, which can take from a few hours to a few weeks. I have not seen an innocent person get banned since they removed their auto ban system. Now they only ban people if they see them using specific programs, such as god mode, teleport-fly hack, no delay attack hack, FMA, FPA. These 'crappy updates' are said to improve game play; I don't necessarily agree with that, but they're there so that Nexon can easily add more content for another game update. One time, they had frequent maintenances, and when the next game update occurred, it took 10 minutes.

Other than in-game and on their website, please tell me where they have promoted NX related things (with a link so I can see if myself).

TBH, I haven't read the extermination reports in a while, however, I challenge you to create a bug and fix it all within a month.

P.S. Thank you for not using ad hominems

This is my point of view. Nexon is rolling on the floor with their money. However, they have to do some amount of work (other than commercials) to get the money to roll on the floor with. They do these maintenances to make it easier on themselves to fix these minor bugs. The major bugs take more time, thus fixing them on major game updates, only to create more bugs, because as we know, every new thing you introduce will create at least one bug. At which point the cycle restarts.
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OACMann Aug 22, 2013 @ 5:36am 
^Like I said, they aren't doing a pretty swell job of maintaining the game. They try, but they fail a lot of times, or it takes a good amount of time. They fix some bugs, but then they add more. That's how it is. I know the major bugs take time, but what I hate, is that these things weren't broken before.

As for the banning, I guess you missed the bad ign bans. These is in the process of 'fixing', but it was still an inconvenience. And if you read the TOS about these things, you will find it

Why does it matter if they promote in-game or not? My point is they have the nerve to promote ridiculous cash sales, even with the current (bad) state of the game. Yes, I don't have to buy it, but releasing packages that are worth up to $150, while there are a lot of bad things going on, makes me want to scream at them. "Fix your broken product, THEN sell it to us" and not the other way around.

Well, bug fixing, isn't really my job, but if it was, I would prioritize the more crucial bugs.
Fedor of Tippia Aug 22, 2013 @ 7:19am 
I've been lagging in the city's way more then i should. Wonder why? No, Not because my computer could handle it, it could have handled it years ago when i played on an older laptop. And i don't have any viruses, either.
SwordFishII Aug 22, 2013 @ 5:40pm 
Originally posted by OACMann:

Well, bug fixing, isn't really my job, but if it was, I would prioritize the more crucial bugs.

You really make it sound like bug fixing is just the easiest thing on earth. Do me a favor, take some coding classes, and tell your professors that you want to specifically fix broken code/programs. Find out for yourself how time consuming it is and how hard it is to isolate the cause of a bug, and how much harder it is to fix it without possibly breaking something else. Because like you said, when the fix one or add one thing, it just breaks another.

Heck, even car repairs are harder than that. Take a car into a mechanic and say "it's making a noise." Does your mechanic instantly know whats wrong with it? Does he instantly fix it in the next few moments? No. Does him fixing it in some way make your car perfect? No.

And let me get this straight. You want Nexon to fix a game, while not charging us (essentially not getting paid) until the game is fixed? Please, tell me how this happens, oh lord of the finances.

Originally posted by Chosen Undead, Slayer of Demons:
I've been lagging in the city's way more then i should. Wonder why? No, Not because my computer could handle it, it could have handled it years ago when i played on an older laptop. And i don't have any viruses, either.

Lag depends on a few factors.

1. Your computer speed
2. Your internet speed
3. The distance between you and the server
4. The amount of (different) objects in the map youre in.
OACMann Aug 22, 2013 @ 7:16pm 
@Sword:
I never said it was?

So, coding being hard is justification of selling a broken product?

Your car analogy is pretty bad, I giggled a bit. First, Maplestory is Nexon's product that they're selling to consumers. It's not my game that I brought to them to get fixed. -.-

What I want is Nexon to not sell me a broken product. Like I said, it's their service/product that they're selling.

Off-topic: If your car mechanic doesn't make a perfect job of fixing what's wrong with your car, you need a new mechanic.

Also, my mechanic does know what's wrong with my car within a small amount of time. He tells
me what needs to be fixed, how much it will cost, how much time does he usually need.

@Chosen Undead, Slayer of Demons:

The excessive town lag existed after the Tempest patch (last Winter). Yes, like a lot of other maplers including me, we could handle Maple perfectly with old hardware years ago. What happened was, the game's system requirements was increased. If you're playing on a laptop, turn off power saver, and turn on high performance. This works for a lot of people. If you're on a desktop, then I guess, upgrade your harware.
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