montys_grail Jul 12, 2013 @ 10:02am
client states
Athens from the very start is a client state of macedon. how will that effect the gameplay as athenia? I personally believe that the game will be easier from the start because you can call on the support of the macadonian military but later on if you want to break away it will be more difficult.
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trichmon Jul 12, 2013 @ 10:04am 
if i played as athen i would brake off from macedon right away and take out ephirus or i forgot there name... because it sais sparta is at war with them...
Maxton Jul 12, 2013 @ 10:18am 
Turns out that Carthage only has 4 territories and it's client states has the rest of algeria and moroco wich does not MAKE SENSE because that means that your entirely depentant on your clients to fight anyone and for revenue and if your client break away from you and declare war on you, YOU ARE SSSSSSSSSSCCCCCCCRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Fluffy Fishy Jul 12, 2013 @ 10:19am 
I'm not sure if thats so advisable. CA have said it is much more beneficial to be a client state in Rome 2 than ever before. It may help you out early game to have macadon helping you out, even if it is expensive. Its worth looking at what impacts it has on the game first.

Athens want to build a Naval empire anyway, to do this your first priorities should be Rhodes and Knossos then see what conditions you are in.
montys_grail Jul 12, 2013 @ 10:42am 
Originally posted by maxman253:
Turns out that Carthage only has 4 territories and it's client states has the rest of algeria and moroco wich does not MAKE SENSE because that means that your entirely depentant on your clients to fight anyone and for revenue and if your client break away from you and declare war on you, YOU ARE SSSSSSSSSSCCCCCCCRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

if you attack one of your client states as Carthage will the others break off with it?
Chaunsey Jul 12, 2013 @ 12:26pm 
as athens you should definitely immediately attack epirus imo.

if you look at the map, sparta starts out at war with epirus, they also are allied to macedon, so you could attack epirus as athens without ♥♥♥♥ing off either sparta or macedon, that will help you gain some early game strength.

after that you definitely want to build up a navy, and perhaps take some mediterranean regions or if you're strong enough just go straight to taking out macedon and sparta.

Munchie Jul 13, 2013 @ 3:45am 
Originally posted by montys_grail:
Athens from the very start is a client state of macedon. how will that effect the gameplay as athenia? I personally believe that the game will be easier from the start because you can call on the support of the macadonian military but later on if you want to break away it will be more difficult.

In shogun 2 tokugawa was a vassal of imagawa (?) and the only way to break the vassalage was to go to war with imagawa. Im sure there are going to be more freedoms and more options with the new diplomacy and political systems but I hope that you can easily break off from Macedon or control you're region/faction how you want to.

Like i mentioned before. When you were a vassal you couldn't declare war, you couldn't control any other regions unless it was taken from a clan you attacked on behalf of Imagawa. You could do very little so I dont know if that vassal system is the same as being a client faction of someone bigger than you. I wouldnt want to go to war with macedon just to be free. Forcing you to take they're regions and so on if you didnt want to go that way.
Fluffy Fishy Jul 13, 2013 @ 6:15am 
You could however try and convince the faction you are pledged to into an alliance, it usually works and means that you can get away with all the benefits with none of the costs!
.:MrJOkEE:. Jul 13, 2013 @ 12:53pm 
I wouldn't get all butthurt about client states. Just because someone is a client state doesn't mean you have to give a rats ♥♥♥ and not march on their cities with your army. I mean, history is full of just that. What I'm more interested about is how this will work in terms of you, a player, having client states because, I mean, they call on you for help...sooo...you tell them to sod off...what then??
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