Total War: Attila already has a DLC trailer...

[I AM NELSON]

Hide your money, the raiding, pillaging CA/SEGA are coming to steal it from your wallets with their new Viking Culture Pack. Looks like they haven't gotten rid of this amoral marketing tactic :(

[CIERVO VELOZ]

I'm not buying any of that crap!!!!

[I AM NELSON]

Originally posted by Los Hijos de Dan:

I'm not buying any of that crap!!!!

Remember when we unlocked factions by beating the campaign? Ah, I miss that.

[Belthok]

I'm not buying, CA.

[The Wrath of Santa]

As we usually have to wait for numerous patches for the game to be playable, I'll be holding on to my cash until it's fit for purpose and then buy it on sale. Bought it on release last time either crashed or failed to start for first four months. Fool me once..........

[Dragnipurake]

Originally posted by I AM NELSON:

Remember when we unlocked factions by beating the campaign? Ah, I miss that.

I remember. That were the times when the game (M2, including all DLCs/expansions) hat 17 playable factions. Whereas R2 has 32, 15 of them free with the base game. Still afflicted by rose-tinted nostalgia?

[Kombucho]

Originally posted by Dragnipurake:

Originally posted by I AM NELSON:

Remember when we unlocked factions by beating the campaign? Ah, I miss that.

I remember. That were the times when the game (M2, including all DLCs/expansions) hat 17 playable factions. Whereas R2 has 32, 15 of them free with the base game. Still afflicted by rose-tinted nostalgia?

so that makes it alright to milk money by dumb dlc

[Dragnipurake]

Originally posted by Kombucho:

so that makes it alright to milk money by dumb dlc

All the DLCs are non-essential. Nobody forces you to buy them. So yes, that makes it a legal business model.

[Dragonrubi]

Stealing, Robbery?! don’t be so hysteric no one is forcing you to buy; unless someone from CA is coming to your home with a pistol to force you to buy if not you can’t call it robbery or anything of the ridiculous things you mentioned.

If you are not interested don’t buy it, if you are and buy then your choice; but there are people out there that might be interested;

or what do you suggest?
That they should stop doing it because your anti DLC ideas even when others may be interested?
Or should they work for free?

Originally posted by I AM NELSON:

Originally posted by Los Hijos de Dan:

I'm not buying any of that crap!!!!

Remember when we unlocked factions by beating the campaign? Ah, I miss that.

In those times there were not Steam, many people had not fast internet and games were purchased physical, I also remember when I had to go to store to buy music and books.

Yet they launched Exps since medieval 1, so this is not new.

[HeavyBadik]

I dont mind dlc politics, but first they should fix what they already released.

[I AM NELSON]

Originally posted by dragonrubi:

Stealing, Robbery?! don’t be so hysteric no one is forcing you to buy; unless someone from CA is coming to your home with a pistol to force you to buy if not you can’t call it robbery or anything of the ridiculous things you mentioned.

If you are not interested don’t buy it, if you are and buy then your choice; but there are people out there that might be interested;

or what do you suggest?
That they should stop doing it because your anti DLC ideas even when others may be interested?
Or should they work for free?

Originally posted by I AM NELSON:

Remember when we unlocked factions by beating the campaign? Ah, I miss that.

In those times there were not Steam, many people had not fast internet and games were purchased physical, I also remember when I had to go to store to buy music and books.

Yet they launched Exps since medieval 1, so this is not new.

It wouldn't be hard to put ALL of the factions in the game as playable. Look, they're already there, so why restrict them? Because they want to sell them to us. I refuse to believe that they can't make all of the factions playable, day one. No extra charge. The content is already there, they just need to refrain from cutting it and holding it hostage for $7.99.

And I'm okay with expansions, like Barbarian Invasion or Kingdoms, but these culture packs are ridiculous.

[I AM NELSON]

Originally posted by Dragnipurake:

Originally posted by I AM NELSON:

Remember when we unlocked factions by beating the campaign? Ah, I miss that.

I remember. That were the times when the game (M2, including all DLCs/expansions) hat 17 playable factions. Whereas R2 has 32, 15 of them free with the base game. Still afflicted by rose-tinted nostalgia?

At least back then, all of the factions on the map in vanilla were playable.

[Dragnipurake]

Originally posted by I AM NELSON:

At least back then, all of the factions on the map in vanilla were playable.

You are wrong again. You could not play as: rebels, the pope, Mongols, Aztecs and Timurids.

[Cubandude]

I'm holding onto my money, I've learned to wait at least a year until you get a finished game from CA/Sega. Screw them.

[I AM NELSON]

Originally posted by Dragnipurake:

Originally posted by I AM NELSON:

At least back then, all of the factions on the map in vanilla were playable.

You are wrong again. You could not play as: rebels, the pope, Mongols, Aztecs and Timurids.

That's because:

1. Rebels weren't really a faction. That's like complaining about not getting to play as the Barbarians in Civilization.

2. There would have to be an entirely new system in place to play as the Pope.

3. Timurids amd Mongols were more of an event than a pure, standard faction.

4. The game is called "Medieval II", it wouldn't make sense if you could play as the Aztecs, which only show up at the end of the game. That's what Kingdoms, a proper expansion pack, included.

Tell me why a faction like Colchis, Athens, Sparta, Cimmeria, or any of the other DLC factions shouldn't have been included. They play in the exact same way as the playables in Rome II. The factions you mentioned did not function as normal factions.

[Pullo]

Nobody forces you to buy dlc, a lot of people play MMO's that require you to pay each month for a game you already own and paid for. In my opinion thats a bigger crime then adding a bonus if you pre order. You can't forget it's a business they need money so adding a culture pack if you pre order isn't a crime.

Rome 2 had a very rough start but that was because CA was pushed by Sega for a early release. CA didn't abandon the game like a lot of game developers would have done, they kept updating and fixing, and listening to their community.

I think Attila total war will work fine on release, all there inbetween games like napoleon and FOTS were awesome games and I think Attila will be the same, a polished, good working game, they owe us that.

Give the game a chance to proove itself, don't go beserk over a pre order bonus, everybody knows they give a little extra when you pre order, every game developer does that.

I am going to pre order just because I was waiting for the timeline of Attila and the Barbarian Invasions, and these Viking forefathers factions are just a welcome addition for me, but I could have lived without them.