terryparker1952 Aug 9, 2013 @ 11:09am
Air Conflicts Vietnam
The game is now out for pre sale on Gamestop with a release date next month for Europe. No info for the U.S. yet.
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dadew2 Sep 12, 2013 @ 6:14pm 
ok that URL was fine I wish it had the us release date. Something is wrong here Has anyone seen the ch-47. It shows a retractable undercarrage it does not have a retractable undercarrage
Ōkami Sep 13, 2013 @ 5:42pm 
-=UBeR=-rqper Sep 18, 2013 @ 1:42am 
Very inspiring trailer.

Tag line goes something like this:

"Fight for Freedom
Whatever the cost
As democracy and communism collide, innocents pay the price
Will you return a hero?"



I don't know if I should laugh our cry, seriously. Carpet bombing is included, yeeha, a direct ticket to become an immortal hero.
But I am not the person to stay idle handed when it comes to serving my country safely from the skies backed up by full air superiority: anybody knows if Hades (death or hell or something like that) aircraft, also operating under the friendly sounding name "rancher's hand" to lighten the image of dumping dioxines on an innocent population and own ground troops will be included?
A what if scenario would be most welcome where the population of the invading nation was to accept destruction of foreign nations lightly like in present days, to bomb Hanoi to the stone age with a nuclear device? Maybe a rogue lone wolf operation, I 'd love that. Burn and melt communists :p
Jakub Majewski (Quarto) Sep 18, 2013 @ 3:09am 
"I don't know if I should laugh our cry, seriously. Carpet bombing is included, yeeha, a direct ticket to become an immortal hero."

That's kind of the point. The question "will you return a hero" can be understood in multiple ways. Take another look at that trailer. Apart from the main texts, that show up long enough to be read, there's also a bunch of words flashed briefly onscreen, quickly enough that you may need to pause in order to read them all. A close look at the trailer will reveal a whole second level of meaning to the whole thing.
OPFORWARRIOR <MHN> Sep 18, 2013 @ 10:22am 
Nationalism & patriotism are sorely lacking in the air conflicts series. Without the fervor of hate... I find myself asking, why were they even fighting (each other) ?... Modern understanding has rendered these games sterile and passionless. Thankfully we have period movies to soak up the ambiance missing from these fighting games.

Watch :
WWI Aviators
The Blue Max [www.imdb.com]

WWII Pacific Aviators
Air Force [www.imdb.com] ( Stirring 1943 Propaganda Film)
Flying Leathernecks [www.imdb.com]
Midway [www.imdb.com]
Tora Tora Tora [www.imdb.com]
None But The Brave [www.imdb.com]
Objective, Burma! [www.imdb.com]

WWII Atlantic Aviators
633.Squadron [www.imdb.com]
Angels One Five [www.imdb.com]
Eagles Over London [www.imdb.com]

Korean War Aviators
The Hunters [www.imdb.com]

I hope you enjoy these as much as I do.
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Jakub Majewski (Quarto) Sep 18, 2013 @ 11:50am 
Why were they even fighting each other? Why, what a question - because the other guys shot first! ;)

No, but seriously - it simply comes down to the budget :). Most air combat games, Air Conflicts included, are developed at much smaller budgets than the average FPS. Transmitting complex themes is in itself a complex task. You really need to be able to establish characters - and that's just a big huge pain, when you don't have a budget to really show what's going on between missions. And in-flight? Well, if a character launches mid-combat into a speech on how much he loves his country and hates what the enemy is doing, how's that gonna sound? :)

So, all things considered, when making air combat games, you have to kind of rely on the players having some idea of what was going on.

Oh, and you forgot a number of absolute classics:
The Battle of Britain (*the* definitive Battle of Britain film)
Dark Blue World (fantastic Czech film about the Battle of Britain - being Polish, I grind my teeth every time I see it, envious that no Polish filmmaker has done anything this great, or indeed anything at all, for the Polish pilots of WWII)
The Bridges at Toko-Ri (a brilliant film about Korea)
Flight of The Intruder (slightly corny, but hugely entertaining Vietnam film)
Flyboys (also corny, but entertaining WWI film)
For Those We Love (a somewhat melodramatic Japanese film about kamikaze pilots, very interesting to watch, but very little air combat)

And finally, somewhat less worthy of recommendation, but still a useful bit of "reference material" is Der Rotte Baron, a German film about the Red Baron. It's fairly recent, and consequently tends to be obsessively anti-war, but there's some really great dogfights in there.
OPFORWARRIOR <MHN> Sep 20, 2013 @ 6:25pm 
Thanks,

set to d/l from usenet in HD ;)

Hadn't heard of dark blue world... saw battle of britain as a child... read & watched bridges at toko-ri in middle school, but confused it with "bridge on the river qwai" in my memory. Prefered BAT 21 to flight of the intruder. Saw Flyboys.. we forgot RED TAILS.
Jakub Majewski (Quarto) Sep 26, 2013 @ 10:41am 
Yes indeed. Is Red Tails actually worth watching, though? It seemed to fly right past - I don't think it was even shown in cinemas here, even though pretty much every single Hollywood production gets screentime.
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