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Denver The Last Dinosaur Dec 7, 2013 @ 2:32pm
Not excited for 2015.
People don't want chopped, premade decks. They want to customize their own.

Hearthstone, Scrolls, Might & Magic... all these games are getting massive numbers and traffic, people want to play card games and build decks, what they don't want to do is get spoon fed prebuilt decks or have limited choices on what they can use to build their cookie cutter deck.

2015 is just going to have to do better. This style was fine in the sense we didn't really have better options a couple years ago, but that changed now, we have a flood of legitimate card games to pick and choose from today.

MTG needs to adapt and allow us to fully customize decks, and stop trying to just be a shill for it's MGO version. If people wanted that they wouldn't be trying to buy Hearthstone keys or playing M&M.
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his1nightmare Dec 7, 2013 @ 3:42pm 
Then don't look or get 2015.
MTGO is the full experience, they won't even think about selling it through DotP.
And as much as this forces you to like Hearthstone, DoC, Solforge, Scrolls, IW or whatever, MTG was, is and will ever be the only true TCG. Play the restricting money grabber version of play the full version, or none, but do not try to put any of the newly arisen games anywhere on the same line.

And I say this with Pokemon and Yugioh in mind... both went a way that is inexcusable. Magic won by now without any kind of doubt.
GuruNeithan Dec 7, 2013 @ 4:40pm 
^this.

DotP is more like a "teaser" of the real game, if you like the principle and want more/full customization and bigger card pool, go MtGO or reallife-MtG. That's what this game is made for, introduce people to the world and rules of Magic and get them addicted (and to allow for some easy set-up casual-gaming).
{B}Dr. Strangelove{B} Dec 7, 2013 @ 7:10pm 
I feel your discouragement and have been there myself, but the various flavors of Magic the Gathering out there are tuned for specific market groups. I agree completely on the point that people want to make thier own decks and not have stuff premade or be forced to use only premade sets. :) Freedom = Goodness and Fun

The big point I am still happy to make is that MTG IRL (in real life)(The trading card game you can actually touch) = The Best. :)
Rastafar-EyE Dec 7, 2013 @ 9:34pm 
To each there own. I personally love the set up of DotP. I can pay a relatively low asking price for what would otherwise be an expensive purchase in the other two magic formats and play the game that I enjoy. Hassle Free. I'd love to throw money around for IRL magic and spend hours building and strategizing decks. But I have neither the time nor the resources for such a hobby atm. For now its a wonderful way to enjoy and stay current with mtg and I think at least a fair number feel the same...though I speak only directly for myself.

Like others have said, while other tcg's can be entertaining, mtg is the definitive game that always has me coming back to it, I intend to enjoy it through the means that I can.
APerfectCircle Dec 8, 2013 @ 1:45am 
Added the sealed deck campaign was a step in the right direction. Now I would like to be able to edit my premade deck that I unlocked, adding other cards from other premade decks that I have unlocked. For example, I might love one of the green decks, but if I've unlocked some artifact deck too, wouldn't it be awesome to be able to mix them together?

I bought this years Magic game late, because I didn't realise it had sealed deck campaign, and I thought it was the same game as every other year, I didn't even plan on buying it. But my friends told me there was slight customisation and when it went on sale I bought it.

In saying this, if next years game is the same as this years game, I won't buy it.
jaydaman Dec 8, 2013 @ 7:31am 
Originally posted by APerfectCircle:
Added the sealed deck campaign was a step in the right direction. Now I would like to be able to edit my premade deck that I unlocked, adding other cards from other premade decks that I have unlocked. For example, I might love one of the green decks, but if I've unlocked some artifact deck too, wouldn't it be awesome to be able to mix them together?

Sadly, that would never happen since the number one priority for Wizards is to use Duels as a means of promoting the physical TCG, not to kill it off. Why keep playing & thus paying in real life when you can achieve the same fun with Duels? The physical Magic TCG is where the money's at & Hasbro/Wizards know that better than anybody. LOL.

Sealed Play was already a big concession with the common complaints (pay for more slots, stuck with the same cards per slot, no swapping cards between slots etc.) all purposely factored in to ensure the viability of the physical TCG while still keeping Duels interesting.
bronzeager Dec 8, 2013 @ 11:55am 
Compared to the price of real Magic, this game is a steal. I don't mind the limited freedom, because I don't have the time or money to actually build a real collection of cards. I've bought 2013 and 2014 now, and I'll probably get 2015 if it adds any new features like 2014 did with Sealed play (though i agree this area could be a lot more fleshed out...the pay-per-sealed-slot idea is pretty supid as well).
Der teuflisch böse Wolf Dec 8, 2013 @ 2:16pm 
When they should work on one thing is. To overwork the engine that they could play five colored deck or a mana pool. And overall its hard to customize decks like you want it. There are so many cards out there that you must scan in anyone of them, work in in the engine and and and.
So i think to really customise Decks like in real, the engine is not good enough to sort out any possible ability or any thing else.
What would be nice for an update is something like, cards the still excistes and none restricted in actual rule Book, from dimension one. Like a Nightmare Picture from Dimension one.

So the game is solid and you never can compare real and CPU, to repeat myself too much Cards out there to storage anyone into this Game.
I´m play Magic since 3.Dimension, and has stopped playing. I could tell you, your deck would never be completed or you oversee combination on the mass of Cards.
Play a real 1.0 game in real, you will find Decks with mixed cards from 5-6 different Dimensions or Years.
mpbros74 Dec 8, 2013 @ 3:28pm 
It's basically a low cost for all you get and leaves everyone on an even playing field. Too many people in real-life spend oodles of cash to get the best cards (which is why I play FNMs which are usually drafts). Luck of the draw yes (like sealed) but you don't have people who have 100,000 cards to choose from and make a deck with Most people especially beginners get turned off the game because of this. I like DotP as a casual game whether I win or lose (can't stand those who won't play to end when losing). This game for under $24 (after deck pack 3 comes out and without extra slots in sealed play) imo is well worth it. I will pre-purchase 2015 when it becomes available next June, and continue to enjoy myself.
Ytar Dec 8, 2013 @ 6:14pm 
Spit on the people who use the excuse that MTG should suck eggs because its just a "teaser"
It's such a cop-out of an excuse and an answer as to why the game shouldn't be made better or improve.
mpbros74 Dec 9, 2013 @ 1:07am 
Originally posted by Ytar:
Spit on the people who use the excuse that MTG should suck eggs because its just a "teaser"
It's such a cop-out of an excuse and an answer as to why the game shouldn't be made better or improve.

I enjoy the game, and yes it could be better. There are many things that could improve the game. I would love to see the introduction of planeswalker cards (but I'm not holding my breath). Hoping that commander is the new formay for 2015, but might have to use the premade decks or construct new ones. Yes there are many improvements that can be made. If you think it's a cop-out to mention it's more a training tool, go ahead and think that. It's been mentioned time and again that's it's main purpose. I believe thay leave out options so that if you want the full experience you'd have to go out and buy actual cards or join MTGO. Either way, I'll still purchase the next DotP as well as real cards. The game is still fun for us who've been playing since magic came out.
GuruNeithan Dec 9, 2013 @ 1:30pm 
Originally posted by Ytar:
Spit on the people who use the excuse that MTG should suck eggs because its just a "teaser"
It's such a cop-out of an excuse and an answer as to why the game shouldn't be made better or improve.

Not sure if it is worth to even acknowledge your opinion, but well.. it's not an excuse or cop-out just because some people here realize that DotP is not meant to be more, this way it fits best into WotC/Hasbro's business calculations.

Ofc I would love a game with fully customizable decks, bigger card pool or even regular updates on the card/deck pool instead of complete new games, like anyone else here (and especially for that low price), but that is what we want, not what WotC/Hasbro wants. Deal with it.
madtc1 Dec 11, 2013 @ 7:13pm 
You can get the game free/cheap. Just get the game early, print the coupon and redeem the promo card at your nearest MTG store as fast as you can.

The DOTP 2014's promo Scavenging Ooze goes for around $10 retail.
Selestiall Dec 11, 2013 @ 10:12pm 
Wizards will never make a fully customized deck feature on these magic games they release on steam and consoles. If they did no one would be paying for the physical magic cards that you buy from the store.

The only way I can see them adding full customization to magic games they release on steam is if they started charging a monthly fee for the game to combat profit losses from people from buying the physical card game.
sholden Dec 13, 2013 @ 1:15pm 
Yeah, WotC have made some stupid decisions in the past, but they aren't dumb enough to actually cannibilize the money printing machine that is Magic.
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